Folks, perhaps the biggest Fediverse news of the week (the month? year?) is that the W3C @w3c, essentially the organization that manages the entire internet, has shut down its social media presence on Twitter and moved to Mastodon, and is encouraging others to do the same.
@mastodonmigration@w3c "the organization that manages the entire internet" No, absolutely no. This sentence is so absurd that you should correct your toot.
@Damaskox I get them every now and then trying to upvote, downvote, or boost something, but it's extremely random. Usually, I find that going to the activity tab and upvoting from there helps
@Damaskox
Yes I do, just like kbin seems to forget my login often. Looks to me like it needs to reminded you're logged in and therefore can up/downvote without errors.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but the #fediverse does not need a dating app. Please please please do not create a dating app here at least until we fix some fairly substantive issues around trust and safety.
@hrefna
"until we fix some fairly substantive issues around trust and safety"
Given the number of people using dating apps, and the impact these can have on people's lives. I would like to see this happen one day. Commercial dating apps have a conflict of interest - if you find the love of your life they lose a customer. I don't use dating apps but if there was one with community ownership I might
@hrefna That is a mind-bendingly bad idea. I almost want to see it happen just to watch the train-wreck, and then I feel bad for thinking that, because it would be actually just plain bad.
The FOSS user-empathy-free design.
The complete misapplication of cryptography.
Some dodgy dude running a server and reading the DMs.
Trust and safety being planned for v2.
A careful design being hard, so the only implementation is someone YOLOing.
@Damaskox All I could find for instance rules for kbin.social is "Harassment, hate speech, or any other form of harmful behavior will not be tolerated. We reserve the right to remove any content or user that violates these guidelines." (from the tos)
@dansup sad to hear. One of the reasons we decided to ask people to subscribe for Murmel upfront. While we are all for freedom of the web, it’s unrealistic to expect that anything running on a single person or a small-team’s voluntary effort will survive over the long-term. Life happens.
There are those who believe they can bring into existence what they imagine.
On the other hand, there are those who don't even believe other people exist: they think their mind is the one forming images and that others are part of their mind.
As for me, I am intelligent and I believe in God.
Water did not create itself.
Let me hear from atheists who think water created itself.
I have a friend, who is a carpenter. I swear he can imagine a beautiful wooden cabinet, and with some hours of work with right tools and materials, honest, he can bring it into existence. It’s amazing!
@jared I actually noticed that there was a graphical tab in the magazine settings where the image was added.
It was just in a different place than what I thought.
Couple things: The first line of your toot becomes the Lemmy post title so keep it short and don’t add any tags (they format weirdly). Also if you tag multiple communities it’ll only post to the first.
I'm wondering if any of you need a virtual assistant. I'm Lynda from Nigeria, currently unemployed, and thought maybe someone here would be interested in employing me. I have experience working with an online institute as an admission counsellor.
#kbinMeta Is it possible to submit a thread to a magazine hosted on a different instance? I wanted to post to a lemmy.world community but I can't get it to show up in the magazine selector on the add thread page. Is there syntax I am missing here or is it just not possible?
TL;DR: To create a new post anywhere in the Fediverse, you have to have an account on the host where you want to create it. (As far as I know anyway.)
To participate in comments is slightly different, and in many cases, a comment made on a separate instance (or even platform) will show up on the original instance, provided the admins of each have set up respective federation.
Nonetheless, this can also fail. Consider several people on, say, kbin.social all subscribed to the same Lemmy community on some instance or another.
They'll all see each other's comments as well as the Lemmy users' comments, and be able to interact, but if that Lemmy's admin team decides not to allow external comments to be visible, the kbin folks will be talking to each other and no-one at the Lemmy, even if their comments are in response to, and show up underneath, a Lemmy user's message.
That Lemmy user would be totally clueless unless they knew to access kbin.social and check. And no-one's going to want, or even be able, to do the rounds of all potential Federation sites to see if they have unfederated responses.
What would be nice is if it was possible to log in to one Federation site with credentials for another, or have some non-specific login details that are shared across multiple, but I suspect that's a logistical nightmare waiting to happen.
Since I'm over a thousand characters in at this point, I might as well explain that you're getting this response two weeks late(r) because your post showed up on the kbin.social sidebar for me today for some reason.
@palordrolap Oh hey, thanks for the detailed response! I actually did some exploration and learning since I made the OP, so I can bring some info to this discussion as well in case the post floats by more people!
TL;DR: To create a new post anywhere in the Fediverse, you have to have an account on the host where you want to create it.
Thankfully, this isn't the case. I think Kbin has (or had? haven't tried lately) some UI issues that prevented you from being able to properly find federated communities to submit a post to them. I made an alt account on fedia.io (linked in my profile) and I have been able to post threads on communities in other instances from there.
As far as I know, you are correct about the potential for one-way defederation causing visibility issues in the way you describe. Last I checked that was not really an intended use case for the functionality, i.e. it should normally be a mutual process, but I think that may be an area where the platforms are still experiencing growing pains.
What would be nice is if it was possible to log in to one Federation site with credentials for another, or have some non-specific login details that are shared across multiple, but I suspect that's a logistical nightmare waiting to happen.
Agreed, both that it would be nice and that it will probably never happen. :P I don't claim to know any more technical details than those broad strokes.
It is nice he thinks ActivityPub is the Internet of the future, calling it "the post-platform" world in which journalists, individuals, organizations all run their own ActivityPub services rather than create accounts on platforms like Ex-Twitter or Facebook. But his perspective is still limited to a world where all applications run on the HTTP protocol with DNS identifying services. He talks about the "Post On (your) Own (host), Syndicate Everywhere" (POSSE) model, and how organizations and individuals can deploy Mastodon instances on their own servers. They also interviewed @pluralistic (Cory Doctorow) which was nice.
They really should have interviewed the @spritelyinst folks to see the real Internet of the future, in which HTTP is replaced with the Object Capability Network (OCapN). But to be fair, this tech is still pretty new and maybe not yet to the point where tech journalists at The Verge would be interested in doing articles about it.
And it doesn't need more users from lousy corporate sites.
But it could do with some new features I think.
Don't you think it would be cool if #Mastodon had a giveaway / exchange feature, maybe even a place to sell things.
Maybe there could have some myspace style page thing for creative people to make a page. Or at least, if that already exists, a little promotional thing to get people to use it more.
I think it’s crucial for people to realize that Fediverse has basically no privacy protections, so regardless of what SHOULD be, fact is you don’t even have the choice.
When you post to Fediverse there is zero guarantee that your content won’t be subject to search.
It’s just part of the design of the system, for better or worse.
Fediverse was built around giving instances all the power, so if an instance wants to search, it can.
@reiver@atomicpoet I believe search on fedi should be opt out, but with the option clearly communicated and not hidden. Search in social media is too critical a function to be hobbled and opt in definitely hobbles it. Your expectation of privacy on a one to many medium should be low to begin with. Insisting on default search privacy on public posts seems over the top.
