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e569668, in Can't delete bad posts
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I'm not sure if this is a good suggestion, are you able to delete it via moderation as you're the magazine owner? Someone mentioned having issues deleting their own posts but still could via moderation recently, but I'm not actually sure what that difference means as I haven't moderated any magazines myself.

MemeCollector,
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Interesting! Let me try

MemeCollector,
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Nope, still the same error. Good suggestion though!

MemeCollector, in Can't delete bad posts
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Ok, so trying to post THIS op I got that same error, refreshed and tried again and again the error but on my profile it showed as posted twice but somehow I had no problem deleting THAT duplicate so why can't I delete those on my own magazine? Strange

NotAPenguin, in kbin.social has been unusably slow lately?

Like when I posted this thread it didn't send me to the thread after posting, it stayed at https://kbin.social/new/article and gave me the 50x error.

McBinary,
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Yeah, I'm still seeing this bug when trying to post a thread or a picture post. "Link" posting seems to work alright though, but I can't post any other type of content... It's been this way for about a month. I'm sort of losing interest since I can't really post threads - I can only comment.

NotAPenguin,

Supposedly a big update that fixes a lot of things is coming soon

e569668, in ~~How does the @random magazine work?~~
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My guess would be it's due to you having a follower from kbin.social https://kbin.social/u/@cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me/followers

cwagner,

Oh wow, I didn’t even think to check that. I guess that’s through one of those bots that make you follow everyone.

Macduff,
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Oh wow, the OP edited the title to include strikeout, which kbin doesn't seem to process markdown on title.

HarkMahlberg, in Is there a way to report an individual user?
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The workaround I have is to put e.g. "See user profile, it's all spam," on the comment for an individual report.

cacheson, in Is there a way to report an individual user?
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Ernest would be the one that would have to ban them from the site. A comment he made recently about the spam situation:

This month, the largest update is planned. It's taking a long time because part of the team is returning from vacation, hence the delays. I hope that the update will resolve some of the most pressing issues. I'm also trying to remove spam systematically, but currently, the code is my priority. After implementing the new version, I will seriously address the community.

If there's anything urgent, currently contacting through the form is the quickest option. Cheers!

DarkThoughts, in Is there a way to report an individual user?

You can try PMing Ernest but I don't think he cares or has time for it.

geosoco, in Why is /kbin federation with Lemmy and Mastodon usually broken?

What problems are you seeing?

ernest, in Lemmy.ml is blocking all requests from /kbin Instances
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It's possible that this is a consequence of the latest Lemmy update, in which a lot has changed. I have noted that kbin has some issues with request signature in communication with certain instances. I will try to check it tomorrow first thing in the morning.

Upvotes_Kills_Birds,
@Upvotes_Kills_Birds@kbin.social avatar

Wow, thank you for the quick communication. Amazing aptitude. Almost nowhere else do you find a lead dev in the comment trenches letting us know what's happening, I'm kinda baffled.

iso, in Why is /kbin federation with Lemmy and Mastodon usually broken?
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IDK I can see your post. What parts are broken for you?

Destragras, in Is there a way to report an individual user?
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Try using the contact link at the bottom of the kbin page. That'll send a message to the admin of the server you are on.

LetterboxPancake, in Is it possible to collapse comments under Kbin posts? I can’t seem to do it, at least on mobile.

There’s KES github.com/aclist/kbin-kes/

But it depends on the browser you’re using.

FarraigePlaisteach,

I’m on iOS, unfortunately. But thanks, I’ll use that on desktop. It looks great!

LetterboxPancake,

You’re welcome. It works really nice on mobile as well, but Apple doesn’t like freedom of choice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

papalonian,

Hey uh, I'm pretty stupid, how do you even start to get this working on mobile? Is it a browser extension? Does it work on the default chrome app or do you need to use Firefox or something? Thanks for any answers, I've been into tech for years and somehow never heard of mobile browser add-ons haha

LetterboxPancake,

I use it with Firefox on Android with a userscript manager add-in called Tampermonkey. I don’t think Chrome has that to be honest, but I don’t use it so who knows.

You can install uBlock origin as well, that alone justifies installing Firefox for me 😅

papalonian,

Christ Almighty. I'm behind.

Thanks for giving me a rabbit hole to check out next time I've got the time.

wafer, in /kbin Issues

Why are comment threads no longer indented further than 2 indentations? I can't tell when someone is replying to the parent comment or one of its replies anymore...

RoundSparrow,

Testing, 1..2

RoundSparrow,

Testing, 1..2..3

RoundSparrow,

Testing 1..2...B

RoundSparrow,

Testing 1..2...B

This is a reply, now 1..2...B 3

RoundSparrow,

Why are comment threads no longer indented further than 2 indentations?

That seems to be the behavior of 'classic view'. Change to 'tree view'?

wafer,

Thanks! I didn't notice that setting changed and where to find it. That did the trick.

daredevil, in Lots of new spam
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Mods seem to be fairly inactive as well. Pretty unfortunate.

wagesj45,
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@ernest is the sole moderator for tons of the most popular/default magazines, and he spends most of his time working on the code for kbin, as far as I know.

daredevil,
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I'm aware. I don't think that reply is really necessary of a tag as I'm sure you and I both know he's busy. This problem is fairly common among kbin native magazines as well and not limited to the federated ones where Ernest is assigned as the owner and moderator. And yes, I'm also aware that it's something Ernest has talked about and plans to address. I'm not hating, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still an unfortunate situation.

ernest,
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This month, the largest update is planned. It's taking a long time because part of the team is returning from vacation, hence the delays. I hope that the update will resolve some of the most pressing issues. I'm also trying to remove spam systematically, but currently, the code is my priority. After implementing the new version, I will seriously address the community.

If there's anything urgent, currently contacting through the form is the quickest option. Cheers!

10A, in "Antiwoke" magazin on kbin.social posting bullshit like "how to end Wokeness" and "Time to reject the extrem trans lobby harming our society" How to report ? he is the moderator of that magazin.

Welcome to the real world, where people disagree with you, and sometimes they're right and you're wrong. You can learn from everyone's perspective.

Is kbin meant to be a far-leftist echo chamber?

Noki,
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its a far right talking point, do you want extremist on kbin.social?

Edit: Funny, your the guy agreeing with "ps".

"No normal person who obeys the laws of sexual morality calls himself a "cis". It's a slur used by those who hate being called something they don't call themselves (their God-given gender), but have too much cognitive dissonance and too much hatred for normal people to let that stop them. We need to reopen the asylums yesterday" - this you ?

more hatefull stuff from you "We may not all have been Christian back then, but almost all of us were, and everyone supported Judeo-Christian values without question. Homosexuals were regularly taken outside and beaten to a pulp, so it was extremely rare for anyone to think such behavior was acceptable."

deelightful,
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Unfortunately I don't know how to report magazines/users so I can't help you there but I just want to add my support to what you're asking because this sort of thing is against the kbin terms of service:

We expect all users to treat each other with respect and kindness. Harassment, hate speech, or any other form of harmful behavior will not be tolerated. We reserve the right to remove any content or user that violates these guidelines.

10A,

The communist far-left calls all disagreement "hate speech". It is not hateful to speak the truth.

jalda,
@jalda@kbin.social avatar

You are longing for the times when "Homosexuals were regularly taken outside and beaten to a pulp". Isn't this hateful?

10A,

It would be if that's what I said, but I never said I was longing for anything, and I never threatened to harm anyone.

Bipta,

You keep to coded language. Congratulations. Don't think we can't read it.

10A,

No, actually I say what I mean. You might try taking the context of the entire comment into account. It was about the purpose of freedom.

ElleChaise,

The tolerance of intolerance leads to the loss of all freedom. You'd have to be either a fraud or a fool to try and sell the opposite as truth. So which are you?

10A,

If you are intolerant of intolerance, then you are intolerant. Full stop. If those are my only two available options, I must be a fool.

jalda,
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Whatever, I copied your whole paragraph in another comment, and the context is pretty clear for anyone who cares to read it. I didn't claim that you personally were threatening to do the beating, only that you thought that the beating was desiderable for the "program of western civilization". If you really don't want homosexual people to be beaten to a pulp, then you should seriously reconsider how you express your ideas.

10A,

Even taking that paragraph out of context is misleading. The whole comment was about the purpose of freedom.

jalda,
@jalda@kbin.social avatar

You still haven't addressed my point. Do you think it is desiderable that homosexual people are beaten to a pulp? Is a YES/NO question, it shouldn't be difficult to answer.

10A,

No, I do not advocate for violence (except in self-defense situations where there's no other option).

ThunderingJerboa,
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It made sense back when everyone was, more or less, on board with the program of western civilization. We may not all have been Christian back then, but almost all of us were, and everyone supported Judeo-Christian values without question. Homosexuals were regularly taken outside and beaten to a pulp, so it was extremely rare for anyone to think such behavior was acceptable.

At this point we need to ask ourselves what the purpose of freedom is. Are we a free people so we can exercise perverted pleasures of the flesh, the slaughter of innocent babies, and genital mutilation of children without their parents knowledge? If you answer "yes", you just might be repeating the whisper of a demon.

The purpose of our freedom is to worship God as we see fit, and to do His will. In the past we never needed to spell that out, because it went without saying. Different people have different views and belief systems, and they're all valid provided they all worship God.

As secular society grows, we lose the underlying reason for our freedom. Freedom is still a valid concept for anyone who knows how to use it correctly, and who understands that the ultimate freedom is the freedom from sin, which is achieved by accepting Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior.

But for those who think the purpose of freedom is to follow Satan, to abuse themselves and others, to commit endless sins, and then, most evil of all, to celebrate pride in their sin (as if they don't even understand that pride itself is a sin), no, I no longer agree that people are entitled to live their lives in the way that they want. They're entitled to repent, and once they do that we can discuss freedom.

Here is your exact quote, there is no "misrepresentation" here. You are firstly suggesting that the gays are worshiping (indirectly or directly) Satan and have no right to "freedom" because your fictionally sky daddy said so. Lets take a step backwards, so you are suggesting your all loving god, basically has doomed 3/5s (if not more until the white people came) of the world because he decided to only care about Europe and part of the middle east for hundreds to thousands of years because this all knowing being somehow couldn't have stable and growing amount of worshipers in Asia, the Americas, Australia, the pacific, etc dooming them all to hell (or purgatory depending on your denomination) because they as you say can't be able to accept "Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior."

You yearn for a day when everyone (in your neighborhood) had your stupid sky daddy's beliefs and if they didn't you wouldn't pull the trigger or what not but you aren't opposed because now we live in a world of sin and whatnot and you want them to repent because they decide to have their freedom that is instill upon them because they are born a fucking human not because a fucking fictional sky daddy said you have it.

It god damn hilarious you are also reiterating god damn fanfic, the cardinal 7 sins weren't a major concept until they were first enumerated by Pope Gregory I in the 6th century and further expanded upon by St. Thomas Aquinas in the 13th century. Then to top it all off, we as a modern society mostly know the configuration of hell by a god damn self insert fanfic by Dante Alighieri in "Divine Comedy" or to be more specific Dante's Inferno.

Also seems you aren't very godly if you aren't even following Jesus' own words

“You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” (Matthew 22:39),

Your love seems very conditional on the concept that they have to worship your god before they deserve any love. Its honestly disgusting and you are the posterchild of why people hate religious nuts. People can worship what they want if they aren't hurting people but holy shit the shit you are willfully allowing by decree people deserve no freedom if they don't have Judeo-Christians.

Bizarroland,
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That's called masturpraying.

You're not hurting anyone (in the physical sense) but you're getting off on the idea that bad things should happen to other people, people you consider to not be in your "in group", and this is usually done in the name of and for the glory of God.

It's a fancy sin that preachers don't tell people about because they're usually guilty of it themselves.

Masturpraying is direct service to and worship of Satan, and he really enjoys it because the people who do it do it in God's name as they commit spiritual violence against the kingdom of God and its occupants while thinking that they are doing good.

10A,

Okay except no, I wasn't doing that whatsoever.

GunnarRunnar,

Fuck off or grow up.

RadicalHomosapien,

There is no disagreement when it comes to gender identity. You don't get to disagree with how someone lives their life when it doesn't effect you. It is not a "communist" ideology to support trans folks and you're exposing how little you actually understand about politics with these types of assertions.

10A,

It's off-topic to debate that here, so I'll refrain. But suppose you're right, and I understand nothing. And suppose the antiwoke mod knows nothing either. Would that be suitable grounds to ban a magazine and/or ban us as users?

GizmoLion,
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Well that depends, you've been pretty thoroughly educated in this post, so now what will you do about it? I fully expect you'll return to your far right anti-woke hatemongering, in which case yes you should be blocked.

Or you can retract it, and maybe there's hope for you yet.

Naich,
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If you genuinely can't see that it's hate speech, then you need to be blocked and not debated because you are immune to reasoning.

10A,

Amusing. If I can't accept your obviously incorrect position, then you must shut down conversation because I'm immune to reasoning? Take a look in the mirror.

Naich,
@Naich@kbin.social avatar

This is not a conversation. Nothing of value will be lost by shutting it down.

bane_killgrind,

"We need to reopen the asylums yesterday" isn't the truth, it's your opinion.

In my opinion, words like this are propaganda intended for radicalisation, and dehumanize people that don't fit into rigid definitions of acceptable lifestyle. Your opinion states that these people should be deprived of liberty and free movement, and deprived of autonomy over their own bodies.

In my opinion, I don't need to tolerate you in my social circles, and Ernest doesn't need to use his own computing resources to enable your shit take on what freedom is.

Kindly go and have your "free speech" using resources that come out of your own pocket, not an unwilling person's.

10A,

I respect most of what you wrote. Yes, that one sentence you quoted at the top is nothing more than my opinion. Yes, you could consider it propaganda. But I didn't intend it to be for radicalization, and I wouldn't hope that to be its effect.

I don't mean to dehumanize anyone, no matter what. But I do agree that I have advocated for a somewhat rigid definition of acceptable lifestyle.

With regard to depriving anyone of liberty, free movement, and autonomy, that's specifically for those who need mental help. For many years we used asylums to contain such people. Many of our current social ills began when we closed the asylums down, and changed the DSM to redefine conditions formerly considered types of insanity to now be considered perfectly healthy. This too is just my opinion, but I'm trying to clarify that it only addresses people who need mental help.

You most certainly don't need to tolerate me in your social circles, and I won't be offended if you choose to block me.

Ernest doesn't need to do anything at all, and I think we can all agree we're grateful for what he's done. Personally I hope he establishes a free speech policy, but in any case we'll see what happens.

With regard to money, I've bought Ernest coffee and I hope you have too! That doesn't entitle me to anything, of course. But it's just to say that yes, I have contributed.

Aesthesiaphilia,

and changed the DSM

Side note, that's more an indictment of the DSM and the rigor of psychology than anything else. Whether something is a disorder or not depends on how popular it is, the whole thing reeks of quackery

10A,

Woke is far-leftist neo-Marxism. What you call "far right" and "extremist" is actually normal, conservative, and Christian. What you call "hateful" is actually just truth telling.

Downvote me all you want, but you sound like naive child who hasn't learned how to engage with competing worldviews.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I think the people downvoting you know exactly how to engage hate.

10A,

Hatred is not speech you disagree with. It's not speech that hurts your delicate feelings. It's not speech that contradicts your values. It's none of that.

I'm fine with downvotes, although I miss old-school reddiquette back when we upvoted content that should be seen, regardless of whether or not we agreed with it. But this discussion is about banning people and magazines, not downvotes.

Bipta,

Hatred is not speech you disagree with. It's not speech that hurts your delicate feelings. It's not speech that contradicts your values. It's none of that.

Right. It's speech that tells people they're not worthy of or welcome to exist.

Thanks for playing.

10A,

That's not exactly what hate speech is, but it's also not what I said. Standing up for conservative Christian behavior is wholly different from telling anyone they're not worthy or welcome to exist. We are all made in God's image, all of us able to repent, be forgiven, and live according to God's will.

effingjoe,
@effingjoe@kbin.social avatar

Which god? Zeus?

Cyzaine,
@Cyzaine@kbin.social avatar

Zeus!??! Blasphemy. All father or no father I say. Odin for best God.

GizmoLion,
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Your sky daddy is fake, and I, for one, will not live under your people's delusions of truth.

Ski,

What if they don't believe in the Christian God because the Christian God is demonstrably not real?

HelixDab,

Mmmmm, it's more like no one can reasonably demonstrate the truth of any god, rather than any specific god being demonstrably false. It's an important distinction. You can't disprove a thing, but you can prove that alternate explanations are far more probable, or that the thing doesn't fit the evidence.

szczur,
@szczur@kbin.social avatar

So perhaps you should repent for actively hurting your fellow children of God. Because unless you're not a hardcore old-school christian, freedom of choice on how to live ones life if it doesn't hurt anybody is a God given right. And you actively want to take that away.

10A,

I absolutely do not want anyone's freedom of choice taken away. That's one of my core principles. God gives us free will so that we may choose. Without the ability to choose, we cannot be saved. So you are grossly misinterpreting me.

kestrel7,
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No one needs to see this, you are throwing out extremely basic arguments that all of us encounter every day in this regressive society. You aren't speaking truth to power, you're just being part of the power right now. You aren't making yourself look good and you aren't making the world a better, freer, more nuanced, or happier place.

People: Hey, stop being a jackass.

Conservatives: OMG, yoU WANT TO CREATE A FAR LeFTIST ECHO CHAMBER

Every fucking time.

Infiltrated_ad8271,
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

OMG, yoU WANT TO CREATE A FAR LeFTIST ECHO CHAMBER

You do realize that this post is specifically about ideological censorship, right?

Aesthesiaphilia,

Hatred invites and deserves censorship.

AnonTwo,

Can you explain how a post that was aimed towards "trans lobby harms our society" is not hatred?

I mean I somewhat blame the OP for not linking the posts for some context, but after a bit of looking around it sounds like the posts in question are in fact hate speech and not just things to disagree with.

10A,

What if an article was titled "Christian lobby harms our society"? Would you consider that hateful? Personally, as a Christian, I certainly wouldn't upvote such an article, but I wouldn't try to get it banned either. People have viewpoints based on personal experiences, and some people find harm in some political lobbies. It's not hatred to speak what one believes to be true.

Froyn,

Jesus wore dresses, get over it.

Infiltrated_ad8271,
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

Since you read in context, could you tell me where the hate speech is?

I only see one article where they spend most of the time making a disclaimer in favor of trans rights, followed by a critique of non-diagnosis and surgery on children, or how nothing is allowed to be questioned. That last one we can see in this thread, people are foaming at the mouth over a title (which includes "extreme, btw...), it's crazy.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Do you remember when I called you an asshole?

I'd like to expand that you're a mi-sogynist , homophobe, and your support for fascists leaves me with no compunctions presuming you hold racist beliefs as well.

In short, I want to make clear this is not a case of what you may have read in Mathew 10:22. You are not being persecuted, and it is not "for righteousness' sake". You are a hate filled asshole who pursues policies which will harm society, and you seek to insert and establish the dominance of (what you believe to be) the word of your god while desiring safe space free from the calling out of your hate.

I also suspect you might be closeted.

That last line is not served as a "gotcha". I want you to know community and acceptance can exist outside what you seem to have found convening with some very dangerous ideology on the right. I suspect at some level you want to be lead away as as you say yourself there are places you could hang out that would not challenge your beliefs. You are here in a "den of sin".

I will commune with a few gods (not yhwh; different better gods) to see if they can bless you with the conviction to choose kindness over cantankerousness.
Change is possible.
You are not broken beyond repair.
I Love You.

I have faith in your ability to be a better person than you have thus-far demonstrated yourself to be.

10A,

Wow, this is such a well composed comment that I almost want to upvote it. Nice work with all of the links and research. You deserve a better reply than I have the energy to write, as I'm tired of this conversation. Sorry.

To address a few of your accusations:

  1. I am not racist. I'd like to remind you that the southern slaveholders were all Democrats, and the Republican party has always opposed slavery. To this day, Democrats are obsessed with skin color, in their CRT and BLM, while Republicans advocate for color-blind meritocracy. Let's not argue about politics here, please, but no, I am not a racist.
  2. I am not closeted. I do confess that I endure other sorts of evil temptations on occasion, though, just like any human being does, so I can certainly relate to those who suffer from SSA. But as a Christian, I pray that I may be shielded from such temptation when I encounter it, and prayer works.

And lastly, quickly, to address two other high-level points you made:

  1. I'm here because there are a large majority of non-Christians here, many of whom have no exposure to the word of God or anyone who praises it. I believe the Great Commission tells me to be here, if the community will accept me. I may get plenty of downvotes (seriously, look at my reputation score!), but if I can plant a seed in the fertile heart of even just one other person, the Holy Spirit will do His work.
  2. Despite your rejection of the one true living God, I truly appreciate your expression of love, however sarcastic it may have been (I can't tell). I am certainly not broken, though I was a broken, drugged out nihilist in my youth before I found Jesus. I love you too, @FfaerieOxide.
FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption I am interested in debating you.

I am not. Nor do I care to hear you loudly proselytizing as a certain other group of people do.

I invite you to consider why you get the reaction you universally seem to to your posts, and proffer that it is not because everyone is jealous that Jesus loves you more than them.
I am not however here to convert you, nor do I intend to platform fascist talking points by treating them as worthy or needing of debate.

I will leave you with the words of one of the prophets of my faith,

"You ain't a vampire; you don't have to suck."

jclinares,
@jclinares@kbin.social avatar

If you answer "yes", you just might be repeating the whisper of a demon."

So, wait... people who have a competing world view from yours are listening to demons? Now who's naive? xD

10A,

Demons absolutely do exist, and I'm happy to discuss that in a different context. It's pretty off-topic here, though.

pancakesyrupyum,

“Demons absolutely do exist” lol

10A,

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist.

—Verbal Kint

pancakesyrupyum,

Haha hell yeah, hail Satan, am I right?

Animoscity,

Trust me, this guy told some people a thing and they wrote it down, and while no one has seen or has proof, its real.

bushOfBerries,

I think you mistyped truth social in your URL bar. This place will not welcome you, I think.

ElleChaise,

Who are ya gonna believe, me; or your own eyes?

geoffervescent,
@geoffervescent@kbin.social avatar

We are all happy to engage with competing worldviews

What you call "far right" and "extremist" is actually normal, conservative, and Christian. What you call "hateful" is actually just truth telling.

This isn't a competing worldview, or rather, it's a competing worldview in the same way that phrenology and alchemy are competing ways to view anatomy and chemistry. Like, it's possible to genuinely believe in these things if your conditions of childhood existence are so constrained, isolated, or manipulated that you are happier living life in your own personal 'Truman show.' But the rest of us don't have an obligation to play along with your fantasy.

Most of us here on the internet have at some point met someone we've had a reasonable political disagreement with but could walk away understanding each other better due to those disagreements. Most of us would even say thise diagreements have gone in both political directions. The same cannot honestly be said for folks with your version of a 'world view.' It's like a method actor but worse because it lacks any goal, it's like a person suffering mental but worse because the cause (Patriarchal models of religion) is external, intentional, and had been prosthlytizing delusion as a worldview for millenia.

AnonTwo,

You know, calling everyone not on your political compass "Not Normal" is kindof not coming off as mature as you think it is....

Basically rather than "disagree" with people, you're creating strawmen to debase anyone speaking to you, so you don't have to disagree with them.

10A,

I'm sorry. That sounds reasonable. I'm really trying to avoid political debate here, and just stand up for kbin allowing a diversity of perspectives. I understand how that might come across as you describe.

mrnotoriousman,

Woke is far-leftist neo-Marxism

Lmaoooo with the buzzwords. Define far-left neo marxism and give some examples of it being promoted by US politicians.

10A,

I'd be happy to do that, but not in the context of this thread. If m/antiwoke survives, maybe we can have a mutually respectful disagreement about it there in a few days.

jalda,
@jalda@kbin.social avatar

I don't usually go to through other people's comment history, but this one is a goldmine

"It made sense back when everyone was, more or less, on board with the program of western civilization. We may not all have been Christian back then, but almost all of us were, and everyone supported Judeo-Christian values without question. Homosexuals were regularly taken outside and beaten to a pulp, so it was extremely rare for anyone to think such behavior was acceptable. At this point we need to ask ourselves what the purpose of freedom is. Are we a free people so we can exercise perverted pleasures of the flesh, the slaughter of innocent babies, and genital mutilation of children without their parents knowledge? If you answer "yes", you just might be repeating the whisper of a demon."

"woke neo-marxism claims that any normal person is bad. That means its practitioners openly discriminate against conservative white Christian men, especially if they practice heterosexual behavior in a traditional marriage."

"Ironically, secession is about the most American thing we could do at this point"

Noki,
@Noki@kbin.social avatar

keep digging, your doing "gods work" ;)

strange to see someone as crazy as 10A on kbin.social, feels more like a Fox-Viewer who chose the wrong server.

10A,

So happens I'm the moderator of m/FoxNews so, in a way, you're right!

minnieo,
@minnieo@kbin.social avatar

mod of the foxnews mag lmfao. oh man, it keeps getting better and better

Osa-Eris-Xero512,

Guess it was only a matter of time before the Nazis colonized here with the server being open sign-up

10A,

You have clearly never been to m/FoxNews.

10A,

Click on the link to the magazine. I promise you you'll be happy you did.

minnieo,
@minnieo@kbin.social avatar

i'm not in the mood for comedy so i'll pass, but thanks C:

10A,

I mean, it's literally news about foxes.

GizmoLion,
@GizmoLion@kbin.social avatar

His name's 10A... he may well be as sovcit too. Par for the course.

mmmplak,
@mmmplak@kbin.social avatar

I mean who can argue with that. Things got weirder on the second page of this thread. I just can’t take this seriously.

VerifiablyMrWonka,
@VerifiablyMrWonka@kbin.social avatar

Thank you for doing the investigation so I don't have to. He'll be going on many peoples block lists at this point.

Bipta,

You present the false choice between hateful extremists and left wing extremists.

10A,

I agree that would be a false dichotomy. I disagree that I presented that choice. But I appreciate that you're actually engaging with ideas here.

IncognitoErgoSum,

I don't want kbin to be a far-leftist echo chamber. I also don't want kbin to be a far-right echo chamber. I think it's perfectly reasonable to want to protect a community from extreme and hateful views, regardless of which side they come from, because those views tend to attract the type of horrible, toxic people such as yourself who advocate beating the shit out of people for being different in a harmless way.

Welcome to the real world, where people who are different from you exist and mind their own business. If you can't put up with people who don't affect you in any way, I don't think the rest of us owe it to you to put up with you, either. Go find a cesspit to wallow in.

10A,

I upvoted you because your response was based on a misunderstanding of me. I never advocating for harming anyone, and I would never do that.

IncognitoErgoSum,

Oh, and about sexual morality, here's how that works:

If it doesn't involve children, animals, the deceased, or non-consenting people, it's none of your business. Persecuting people who have done nothing to you is immoral.

10A,

Your notion of how that works is not rooted in the Bible.

IncognitoErgoSum,

Matthew 7:5 -You hypocrite! First, remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.

Maybe worry about yourself first, guy who pines for the "good old days" when gay people used to get the shit beat out of them. Nobody corrupts the God's word like loud, intolerant far-right Christians.

10A,

Do you know how many times in this thread I've explained that I never expressed a desire for harm to come to anyone? And each time I'm just downvoted and mocked with a "we know what you really mean" attitude. No, really, I don't pine for that. Some people just really love to hate on Christians.

matthieu_xyz,
@matthieu_xyz@piaille.fr avatar

@kbinMeta
@10A
Considering the issue about tankies on some lemmy instances, I think we understand how much left is too far left. And what you describe as "woke" isn’t it.

10A,

I concede that's a very good point. The term "far-left" (just like "far-right") is problematic because there's such a wide spectrum. In the center-left, you have old-school leftists like Bill Maher. On the far left you have tankies. In between them you have the woke. So what do we call that? I can't pretend to answer the question, but I recognize that you have a very good point. Personally I'll continue calling woke far-left until I learn a more appropriate term.

Aesthesiaphilia,

As a member of that group, we prefer to call ourselves "progressives".

10A,

Fair, but so does the center-left.

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