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masimatutu, to random en-gb

Default instance blocks should largely replace defederation

Since what content users might want to see is quite unlikely to match which servers the admins tolerate, choosing instance on the Fediverse can be quite complicated, which is inconvenient and off-putting for new users.

For this reason, and simply that the Fediverse is stronger united, I believe defederation should ideally be reserved for illegal content and extreme cases. If Fediverse platforms would allow instances to simply block the rest for users by default, the user experience would be the same, unless they decide otherwise.

@fediverse #fediverse #defederation

masimatutu,

Content isn't cached unless someone follows it anyways.

And I'm not sure what you mean with that latter part; what difference would this make in what content admins can see before they cast their judgement on a server?

sxan,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

What op said still stands: if only one of your users follow a high-traffic, heavy-content /c/, then the server is caching all of that content for one person.

E.g., there’s this great bot on Mastodon that posts random fractals, and the highest-voted ones “breed” to create a new generation of child fractals. The bot posts a static image and an animated movie of each new child every 4 hours. The images are ca 5mb each; the movies are between 20 & 40mb ea. That is, on average, 210mb/d, or 1.4gb per week. That’s a lot of data. You might, as an admin offering a free service, not want to have to pay for that much storage just because one or two users are suscribed to /c/flamereactor (“FlameReactor” is the name, so you can find this mind-blowingly awesome bot). There’s also bandwidth considerations, both on the pull and when users request the content.

I like the idea, though, and will suggest a tweak, tried and true from Usenet days: provide the ability to unblock to only paying users. It’d give admins control, plus money to offset storage costs. Maybe provide three options to admins: full defederation; auto-block with any user able to unblock, for odeous but low impact sices; and auto-block with unblock for only users in some group - close friends, paying users, whatever.

Lemmy could also transcribe content into links back to the source, but that’s just punting the bandwidth costs onto someone else, and I wouldn’t be surprised if this is frowned upon within The Federation (although it’s common practice with Reddit and X(twitter) content).

J12t, to meta
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Hey @TechCrunch, re your piece on #activitypub and #threads, my notes from last week’s meeting at #meta answer some of the questions in your article.

https://reb00ted.org/tech/20231208-meta-threads-data-dialogue/

akuchling, to random
@akuchling@dmv.community avatar

For people who won't want to see posts from Threads, please know that you can block an entire domain from your feeds. Docs for doing so:

https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moderating/#block-domain

#fediverse #threads

andresmh, to random
@andresmh@hci.social avatar

We're organizing a small in-person workshop about federated/decentralized social media at Princeton.

https://dsmw.cs.princeton.edu/

We're interested in bringing folks who develop fediverse tech or admins that manage active Mastodon instances. We have some travel funding.

Ping me if interested, and please boost 🚀 to reach more people.

#fediverse

funkwhale, to random
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1.4.0 is on the way! We have some translations that are nearly complete, but we need some help getting them over the finish line.

If you have the time and are a speaker of Occitan, Dutch, Chinese (Simplified), Italian, Polish, Basque, Japanese, or Portuguese (Brazil), we'd really appreciate your help getting our translation strings to 100%

https://translate.funkwhale.audio/projects/funkwhale/front/

ernest, to kbinMeta
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

@testing Can you repeat your tests regarding tags between kbin and other instances? It should be significantly better ;)

#kbinMeta

testing,
@testing@kbin.social avatar

@ernest
thank you! tags from kbin do federate on microblogging fedi - kbin users should use the the tags section rather than the text body though

  1. i also had a look at friendica; sadly, friendica seems not to be capable to pick up tagged posts from kbin > see e.g. https://friendica.opensocial.space/search?tag=kbin > tried my luck at several friendica instances, and every time: no content from kbin
  2. tags in kbin threads do not display on kbin pwa, e.g. https://kbin.social/m/kbinDevlog/t/692551 > on microblogging fedi platforms, i can see three tags: kbin, fediverse, and kbinDevlog for the magazine > with kbin pwa, neither kbin nor fediverse show up
ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

@testing Thanks for the summary. I will check those cases.

pfefferle, to random
@pfefferle@mastodon.social avatar

what do we have to do to make the plugin attractive to more users? We are currently at 4000+ active users on WordPress.org + the WordPress.com users.

hrefna, to random
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I sort of want:

  • To/cc to control where the message gets sent.
  • Audience to control who can see the message.
  • bto, bcc to not exist or be broadly disabled in AP (edit, to clarify: I want to and cc to take the meaning of bto and bcc in general; the functionality is useful, but in a social network it should be the default behavior and we have other mechanisms to tag people in)

david_megginson, to random
@david_megginson@mstdn.ca avatar

Let's not compete with BlueSky.

If people who want to be on BlueSky end up on BlueSky, and people who want to be in the fediverse end up in the fediverse, we'll all be happier.

Tech details aside, I understand that the culture of BlueSky is "Twitter without Elon." I came to the fediverse looking for the same thing, but I've stayed because our culture isn't remotely like Twitter before Elon, either.

indieterminacy, to random

I just created a matrix room and kbin magazine concerning wider aspects about #semantic models and understanding in the #fediverse

https://matrix.to/#/#semantic-fediverse:matrix.org
https://kbin.social/m/semantic_fediverse

All backgrounds and technical capabilities welcome

Flipboard, to random
@Flipboard@flipboard.social avatar

What’s the BBC up to in the Fediverse? What have they learned so far from their experiments? And how is all this like the early days of the internet? In the latest episode of Dot Social, Flipboard CEO @mike chats with @Ianforrester, Senior Firestarter at @BBCRD. (How cool is that title, btw!)

https://about.flipboard.com/inside-flipboard/dot-social-ian-forrester/

#ActivityPub #Fediverse #Flipboard #SocialWeb #DotSocial #Podcast #BBC

Video clip from podcast conversation between Flipboard's Mike McCue and the BBC's Ian Forrester about the BBC's experiments in the Fediverse.

pfefferle, to random
@pfefferle@mastodon.social avatar

We just released version 1.3.0 of the #ActivityPub plugin for #WordPress

https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/

The WordPress.com release is in preparation!

Main new feature: Threaded Comments 😍

Here is a nice example: https://notiz.blog/2023/12/04/sidebar/#comments

Thanks to everyone who was involved!

https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/releases/tag/1.3.0

#fediverse #automattic

LaurensHof, to random
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5 years of Mobilizon

Framasoft, the French non-profit organisation for open source software such as PeerTube, says that after 5 years, Mobilizon has reached maturity. In December 2018 the organisation announced their plans to develop Mobilizon, with the goal of creating an alternative to Facebook Groups and events.

Over the years, they have added multiple updates, such as federation in 2020 and searching across Mobilizon instances in 2020. This month, they are releasing their final update, v4, with a variety of new features.

Event administrators can now send private announcements to attendees, allowing them to contact all people who have registered for an event directly. This announcement is a one-way communications channel, intended for organisers to broadcast information. Besides that, a chat system for attendees is also implemented, which federates with the rest of the fediverse.

Another new feature is the ability to import and synchronise events from other platforms, such as Meetup and EventBrite. Framasoft created an import tool that allows you to import and synchronise event information from these platforms into Mobilizon. iCal event feeds are support too, so this even works with most calendar tools.

The big platform for importing events from is Facebook. Here, Framasoft has done the work to get it to work, and the ball is now in Facebook’s court to approve and validate. Framasoft is clear that they do not have a timeline how long this will take, and that they are unsure if Facebook will do so.

While Framasoft sees Mobilizon has having completed their vision, it is far from over for the project. Framasoft will hand over the keys to the French association Kaihuri, who has been maintaining a Mobilizon presence for a while. Kaihuri recently got funding from NLnet to continue development work on Mobilizon, focusing on the user experience and improving interoperability. Meanwhile, Framasoft is betting big on PeerTube for next year, and is currently organising their yearly donation drive.

https://fediversereport.com/5-years-of-mobilizon/

pixelfed, to random
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richardgrant,
@richardgrant@mastodon.social avatar

@pixelfed Perhaps you could charge money for your official apps? Maybe have a "pro" level to unlock all the features?

steve, to random
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#ActivityPub dev tip of the day: An inbox (or outbox) is not a queue. An inbox is reverse chronological (LIFO-ish) and maintains long-term references to items. A queue has FIFO behavior and items are dequeued/removed for processing. AP is difficult enough without equating the inbox concept with MQ middleware (which could be a useful internal implementation technique).

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