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HairHeel, in What's the consensus here regarding Babylon Five?
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Yes you should binge watch it.

Don’t skip season 1. There’s great character building in there. It does really set actual plot events in motion as well. I don’t know why anyone would say to skip it.

Now, you can decide whether to watch The Gathering (pilot episode, later released as a movie) before season 1 or not. They’ll make references to it in the show, but I don’t think most of the audience had seen it at the time those episodes aired, so skipping it might give you to “correct” experience. Some things are different that you’ll have to overlook, but there’s legitimate plot value there.

Stopping after season 4 is an ok thing to do, but I say go ahead and watch it. (Watch the Season 5 finale even if you do stop there, though).

Between seasons 4 and 5, you can watch or not watch the In The Beginning and Thirdspace movies. That’s the order they aired in. “in the beginning” is a prequel of sorts that adds some color to things we see flashbacks to throughout the show. Thirdspace was a season 4 episode that got cut when they rushed to finish the series early, I think?

The other movies…. Meh. The recent animated one was better than I expected, but I wasn’t expecting much…

startrekexplained,

Thanks for the detailed response, I’ll start with season 1 then. I like how Tomalak is in the show :D

VindictiveJudge,

As an adendum to that guy’s post, season 5 is weaker due to production issues, but really picks up in the back half and resolves the G’Kar-Londo plot. That last bit makes it worth watching all on its own, for me.

crashoverride,

Did you watch the spinoff show?

HairHeel,
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I did, but it wasn’t very good. If you really like the original, go ahead and give it a shot. Make sure you watch the Call To Arms movie, which is kind of a pilot for the spin-off.

jordanlund, in What's the consensus here regarding Babylon Five?
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First season is all setup. Really, start with season 2.

Season 4 is the single best season of sci fi television ever done.

Here’s what I would do…

Burn through season 2 and 3, then go back and watch season 1 so you can see all the seeds they planted there before hitting season 4.

Season 5 is the “Oh, crap, we thought we weren’t getting a season 5…”

startrekexplained,

Thanks for the heads up. Is Season Five bad or just not as good?

jordanlund,
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It’s not that season 5 is bad, it’s that they pretty much resolved everything in season 4 when they didn’t think they were getting a season 5.

Then, after they hit it out of the park with 4, TNT comes along and goes “So about season 5…”

“Uhh… yeah… season 5… heh.” 💧💧😅💧💧

fox2263,

It’s decent. First half is not as good as any of the other seasons, but the second half ramps it up considerably and is great. Sad but great.

WhoRoger,
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Maybe I’m the only one who likes S05 just as much. Yea it’s not as bombastic in scope, but you still get the same great characters and universe.

StillPaisleyCat,
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I liked season five too.

WhoRoger,
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Sorry but that’s a horrible idea… The whole point of ‘planting seeds’ is how the pieces fall together in succession.

StillPaisleyCat,
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Better to skip the first season than not watch at all.

I am someone who noped out of the show mid season one during its original broadcast run, despite being really psyched by the pilot, and fortunately gave it a second chance for season two when Boxleitner was brought in.

jordanlund,
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There are problems with Season 1, Season 2 has a better hook and because they replaced the commander and are doing a bunch of catch up work, there’s no harm starting there then circling back.

Season 1 is a slow burn and there are a lot of filler episodes that don’t go anywhere (looking at you Infection, Deathwalker, Believers, TKO).

That being said, the must watch season 1 episodes:

1-3, 5-8, 11-13, 16-20, 22.

WhoRoger,
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That’s pretty much the case of S01 of any series, especially sci-fi, especially from the 90’s.

jordanlund,
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I’m in the minority who believes Fox was right to start Firefly with the Train Robbery, so what do I know? :) (I know my wife fell asleep 1/2 way through the original pilot.)

WhoRoger,
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Possibly… It’s true that people want instant gratification, and also true that pilots tend to kinda suck (see B5 actually).

I think these days the show creators have gotten better at hitting the ground running from the start.

squiddles,

I think watching season 1 later isn’t a bad idea at all. It feels like you’re in on what’s being set up, and knowing what’s coming makes the sloggy episodes tolerable. I watched the show in the order 2 3 1 4 5 on the advice of a friend, and I’m really glad I didn’t start with season 1. I would have quit before the end of the season and missed out on what’s now my favorite show of all time.

millie, in Announcement to non-StarTrek.website users: on July 10th, c/Quarks will change to "locals only". Thanks to the Lemmy devs for this new feature!

Goofy decision. I have an account here, but I rarely use it because of the ratio of spam to genuine posts on the instance.

You could always just defederate from those toxic instances? It seems like this isn’t a popular decision with the community. Might be worth rethinking it.

ValueSubtracted,
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If you don’t like the content hosted on this instance, why do you have an opinion on this at all?

Admin, (edited )
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I think she’s saying she’s upset we don’t remove enough content from other communities (federated with us but not originating) on this instance. Which is correct, the admins here generally leave content on other communities alone if they are actively moderated.

Ok nevermind she’s apparently saying /c/StarTrek and /c/Risa are “spam”?

millie,

I was actually specifically referring to Value Subtracted constantly spamming empty threads and ST:O ads.

Admin,
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Per instance guidelines, submitting on-topic content to relevant communities is not considered spam. But if you want to stay subscribed to /c/STO and block ValueSubtracted’s “spam” StarTrek.website has a block feature you can find on their userpage.

millie,

I do like the non-spam content on this instance, such as Quark’s and Daystrom. I’m subscribed to it through other accounts, but occasionally I poke my head in on the actual account I have here.

Personally, with most of the instances I actually use, I find it easier to just look at the Local feed. On this instance, however, a significant portion of what gets posted is just repetitive spam, so it’s hard to really do that. It’s much easier to subscribe to individual interesting communities, such as Daystrom and Quark’s, through other instances that I’m more likely to actively use.

I suppose if you don’t care what kind of experience anyone has on your instance, that’s your business.

ValueSubtracted,
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millie,

I’m referring to your constant advertisement posts.

Admin, (edited )
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The admin team doesn’t make instance decisions based on what’s “popular”. It’s actually against our mission statement. Though that doesn’t mean community input is ignored.

But that being said, admins can see who’s voting and we can see that the downvotes are not coming from users with much/any history in this community. So we are not taking their feedback strongly into account.

Wolf314159,

This logic is bonkers. Lurkers are part of the community too. Everyone participates in their own way.

Admin,
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The admin team doesn’t make instance decisions based on what’s “popular”. It’s actually against our mission statement. Though that doesn’t mean community input is ignored.

But that being said, admins can see who’s voting and we can see that the downvotes are not coming from users with much/any history in this community. So we are not taking their feedback strongly into account.

Admin,
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The admin team doesn’t make instance decisions based on what’s “popular”. It’s actually against our mission statement. Though that doesn’t mean community input is ignored.

But that being said, admins can see who’s voting and we can see that the downvotes are not coming from users with much/any history in this community. So we are not taking their feedback strongly into account.

StillPaisleyCat, in ‘Star Trek’ Alum Jonathan Frakes to Direct Sci-Fi Adaptation of ‘Arthur C. Clarke’s Venus Prime’
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This is great news for Frakes.

He was on the upswing as a director until the debacle of the Thunderbirds movie basically made him unemployable.

Star Trek has enabled him to get back into directing work, and even some acting.

He’s been picking up directing work beyond the franchise over the last few years, but an EP supervising director role for an entire limited series adaptation of a prestige author is definitely a step forward.

TheAlbatross, in North Koreans Secretly Animated Amazon and Max Shows, Researchers Say

Pay walled article innit

Misanthrope,
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ptz,
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archive.ph/…/north-korea-amazon-max-animation-exp…

Just add archive.ph in front of about any link.

Also, it’s not paywalled, at least for me.

tristan, in I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request as it goes against OpenAI use policy

I’m sorry, but I can’t provide the requested response as it goes against openai’s content policy

shalafi, in Survey reveals tough job market for Gen Z grads due to employer preferences

38% of employers avoid hiring recent college graduates in favor of older employees

My god y’all are entitled little bitches.

“They’re hiring people with life and professional experience vs. ME! I got a piece of paper and the world owes me all the things!

Yes, generally speaking, GenZ has it worst of all. They got it worse than the Boomers, GenX (me) and the Millennials. No doubt.

But maybe the constant whining and bitching has something to do with being a pain in the ass to employ?

My small employer is wildly liberal (and successful!), not good enough for GenZ. Not HR, but I onboard all the new people and I can tell who will last and who won’t given their age.

magnetosphere, (edited )
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People invest insane amounts of money in a college degree. After spending years to earn that “piece of paper”, hoping for a decent job in return isn’t entitlement.

These are people who are looking for an opportunity to earn money; they’re not expecting a handout.

GBU_28,

Huh? The degree is a gamble. You hedge the bet by getting good grades, networking, and leading your industry on needed skills. If you don’t graduate with attractive skills, you attended a social club.

the_q,

You didn’t need to tell us your were Gen x… You guys are a hip replacement away from being boomers.

Skates,

A genx with a hip replacement will still be a genx, but with now less hip pains. Do you think… Hips somehow… Relate to age?

Is this a “count the rings thing” taught to genz now? Is Shakira some sort of prophet for you guys, because of “hips don’t lie”?

Peppycito,

And you guys are just 30 years of working for a living away from the same fate. Welcome to the club.

tacosanonymous, in "For All Mankind" season ending coming up - Star Trek fan thoughts?

It’s one of my favorite shows. I’m hoping they get the chance to wrap everything up neatly instead of being cancelled.

M500,

Has their been rumors of a cancelation?

I’m surprised there are so many seasons already. I’ll start watching it tomorrow.

It’s the first I’m hearing of this show.

tacosanonymous,

No rumors but you never know, streaming being the way it is. Plus the way the series works, you can’t use the OG cast forever.

M500,

Thanks! I’m really excited about this show. I just finished a ds9 watch and have not had any ideas about what to watch next.

Volkditty,

They’re already pushing it this season with characters having to come out of retirement in order to stay relevant.

Lucien, in "For All Mankind" season ending coming up - Star Trek fan thoughts?

Still haven’t finished season 1 *plugs ears and starts humming

Deebster,
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I haven’t started season 1 plugs ears and leaves thread

funkless_eck, in Amazon Will Inject Ads Into Prime Video Starting Jan. 29th

this story inspired me to create my own home server for yohoho as my nye resolution

Sanctus, in David Tennant's 14th Doctor Will Make His TV Debut This Week
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Woah, I step out for just a decade and they bring David back? Cool.

ValueSubtracted,
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Yep, he’s doing three specials as the 14th Doctor before Ncuti Gatwa takes over as 15 in January.

Sanctus,
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Delightful, I’m sorry I’m that guy and read after I posted. David is the best imo.

End0fLine, in StarTrek.website now has a wiki (and mission statement)!
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This is pretty nifty and sounds like it will be a great resource. Thank you (the plural you) for all of your hard work on the site.

Admin,
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Thank you (singular) for helping keep to keep this community vibrant!

bionicjoey, in Rewatching Avatar and Avatar 2 on blu ray

When Avatar first came out, a friend of mine described it as “Pocahontas with a tech demo” and I’ve had a hard time enjoying it since. The story is really similar.

GummySquirrel,
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Your friends not wrong. The link with european arrival in north and south america was intentional for the film.

bionicjoey,

If course, but it’s not just that it’s a story about colonialism, it’s that the plot structure is basically the same

ValueSubtracted, in ‘Star Trek’ Alum Jonathan Frakes to Direct Sci-Fi Adaptation of ‘Arthur C. Clarke’s Venus Prime’
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I’m not familiar with Venus Prime - it’s apparently based on the short story Breaking Strain, which has been spun into a novel series by Paul Preuss.

Corgana,
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Thank you for posting this. I am a big Arthur C Clarke fan and had never heard of it, and my google-fu turned up nothing.

StillPaisleyCat,
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‘Venus Prime’ is the way the novelizations were branded and marketed starting with the first book ‘Breaking Strain’ in 1987.

As you can see from the cover image, it was an early example of the ‘hot babe with powers’ marketing approach.

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/7fd358b7-f45d-4f99-9a66-721ec6ef94cd.jpeg

ValueSubtracted,
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Brannon Braga, eat your heart out!

StillPaisleyCat,
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Her hair even goes white-blond as of book 2. LOL

I have observed elsewhere that no women are announced in the creative team. I hope they get a strong female-presenting A-list lead who insists on EP status.

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/b6c5af68-74f3-4f1c-bc03-5e261d3f0581.jpeg

Blaster_M, (edited ) in AI Detectors Get It Wrong. Writers Are Being Fired Anyway
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