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ghostatnoon, in Feature Requests/feedback from a Kbin magazines' moderator.
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I second all the suggestions except the currently reading/online one: in my experience, seeing "currently reading" statistics just makes dead places feel more dead. It's also not a useful statistic: it doesn't tell you how good a post is, or provide any information about the poster, or even show how popular it is (because you can't really extrapolate about the average engagement from only one datapoint). You can't do anything with the number.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, (edited ) in Blocking and Downvote Stalking
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Bad idea imo.

Blocking someone means, "I want nothing to do with this person," so it makes sense that you'll be unable to see what they do. This should include direct messages, threads, comments, etc. @PugJesus's idea of a setting to hide votes from blocked users is a great idea, as you should be able to fully ignore someone you've blocked.

It also makes sense that someone you've blocked wouldn't be able to do any 1-on-1 interaction with you. If you've blocked somebody because they're spamming or harassing you, it wouldn't be great for them to be able to DM you.

However, preventing them from voting on your posts is something different entirely, as votes don't just concern the creator of the post and the person doing the voting; they also concern everyone who sees the post. Upvoting a comment is a message not just to the creator but also to everyone else that you like that comment, and the same goes for downvoting. Blocking voting is much more farther reaching than blocking DMs, and with votes being visible on the fediverse, it's a great way for trolls to hide people's views on their posts.


EDIT: Typo

wagesj45,
@wagesj45@kbin.social avatar

But if a troll blocks everyone that down votes them, eventually no one will be left to see their stuff. It is a self solving problem. On the other hand, a troll that you block can interfere with your stuff being shown to others depending on the sorting algorithm.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, (edited )
@ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social avatar

But if a troll blocks everyone that down votes them, eventually no one will be left to see their stuff.
By letting people prevent others from downvoting bad content, you make more people see it. This problem is only "self-solving" ifː

  1. everyone who sees heavily downvoted posts blocks the user. This probably isn't ideal behavior given how many people treat downvotes as an "I disagree" button.
  2. if the person's posts aren't being exposed to new people. It doesn't matter if everyone who's already seen the user has blocked them if more people are getting exposed to them. And by preventing downvotes, you're making it more likely that people will see these posts.

On the other hand, a troll that you block can interfere with your stuff being shown to others depending on the sorting algorithm.

The number of trolls going around downvoting everything you do is minimal, and you can often deal with them by calling them out as was discussed in a previous thread about downvotes. Additionally, you have to consider the other side of the coin, which is content that should be getting downvoted getting more attention than they should.

can, in I'm starting to see some serious downsides to being able to see who downvotes you.

This is an obvious downside. I’ve experienced a similar thing but being a lemmy user I don’t know who I pissed off. Which is for the best. It was a one off. Ignore it and chances are this one will be too.

DarkGamer, in ✨ What is your favorite thing about kbin? ✨
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I agree with everything you said, additionally:

  • Ernest is dope, figure that's worth repeating, probably the hardest working man in open source social media right now
  • I really like the UI a lot compared to other fediverse alternatives
  • I like that I can see both blog posts and threads from one app
  • Kbin users seem to be more balanced than many lemmy instances which seem to foster groupthink and brigading.
  • Features seem to be rolled out based on community feedback, I made a post a long time ago about abandoned magazines and was pleasantly surprised to see a method of reclaiming ghost magazines included in a recent update.
minnieo,
@minnieo@kbin.social avatar

all great points. i hear lots of mixed reception on lemmy, sounds like a mini reddit sometimes lol.

and yea, ernest actually listening to the users and implementing features from there is another reason why he is so amazing!

testing,
@testing@kbin.social avatar

@minnieo
ernest's approach is unique in many ways, and
the kbin community is highly responsive to new ideas
@ernest @DarkGamer

Spectres, in We're back
@Spectres@kbin.social avatar

Thanks for all your hard work, you have created an amazing community and risen to the many challenges that come from the kind of exponential growth this instance has seen.
Take care of yourself!
Thank you!

a-man-from-earth, in Magazine bans not federating with lemmy.world (and potentially others)
@a-man-from-earth@kbin.social avatar

A bug was filed about this issue four months ago and ernest has commented on that thread, so he's aware of the problem. So far, no solution has been reached, which makes me as a moderator extremely demotivated. I don't want to put effort into building a community if comments that break community rules are federated but moderation is not.

MemeCollector,
@MemeCollector@kbin.social avatar

Thanks for this info, I guess it's good to know it's on the to do list, but I completely agree, since realising this my motivation to post, knowing my moderation doesn't have any effect on a large chunk of users, has dropped significantly..

Is there a place to check for updates on this, is the post you shared it?

a-man-from-earth,
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The bug report is the way to track this. Tho sometimes ernest makes posts in this magazine to share what's happening.

MemeCollector,
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Ok, thanks! What's ernest's magazine called? I'll definitely subscribe to that, and keep an eye on the bug report.

tea, in Remember you can donate to help support the development and maintenance of kbin and/or Ernest directly

Just because I was curious which platform takes the smallest cut:

  • Patreon takes 8%, plus payment processing (I assume another 3-5%). Let's call it 11%.
  • Buy Me a Coffee seems to take 5%, and Stripe takes 2.9%. Basically 8%.
  • Liberapay apparently takes 0% themselves, but 3-5% goes to payment processing through Stripe or Paypal. The site is funded by people who directly support the Liberapay account itself lmao. So 3% puts them in the clear lead.

I know Patreon is basically a household name at this point, but if you're open to a bit of change I'd encourage folks to use Liberapay!

MHLoppy,
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Just re: Liberapay's fees, 2.9% is their recorded average when using Stripe and 4.9% the average when using PayPal. YMMV based on e.g. donation size (where a small donation will have a higher % fee due to the processing fees being a combination of flat and %), currency / country, etc.

It's still almost always the lowest-fee option when available, but just wanted to be clear that you can't just jump in and expect to see ~3% regardless of circumstance.

tea,

That's a good point! I've edited my previous comment for accuracy!

HipPriest, in Is Kbin dying? I wanted to address the deleted thread and provide some insight into the current situation.

If end of September is a self imposed deadline why not just extend it a little? I don't feel like you've got anything to prove here and you certainly shouldn't in my book

I'm always telling people in my team health/family etc comes first (from learning the hard way myself)...

Obviously if that's not possible for reasons we don't know that's different. But I honestly enjoy using Kbin in its current state pretty much daily and I think most people here would agree you've done a cracking job on it.

Hope things work out for you either way

TellumSiege, (edited ) in Is Kbin dying? I wanted to address the deleted thread and provide some insight into the current situation.
@TellumSiege@kbin.social avatar

You've done an awesome job. And anyone complaining needs to remember that Kbin/ Fediverse is still in its infancy stages: It's going to cry, teethe, piss and shit itself when you least expect it. But with the right care (and time), one day it'll be a lot easier to manage.

celeste, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
@celeste@kbin.social avatar

I typed a reply about how bad actors will use reasonable arguments to get their way, so we'd need genuine evidence

my comment didn't send properly tho and i got an error message, so if you see me commenting twice, sorry

CharlesReed, in Is Ernest still here?
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I've been wondering the same thing. I really like kbin's interface, so I'm holding out that he comes back before I think about trying another instance.

BarbecueCowboy, (edited ) in Federation Delays

We haven't heard from our developer/lead maintainer/near entirety of the staff for about a month, so it's kind of hard to say. If they are working on something in the backend, it doesn't feel like they care enough to inform the community about it.

DarkGamer, (edited )
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Ernest just replied, has been dealing with medical stuff but apparently a patch is in the works.

Raffster, in Request for an off-site status communication method and more admins to help run the site & communicate with users

Yes please. I like kbin a lot and fear that this is the only option there is, given the size of the project.

rimu, in Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers
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It's hard to imagine Kbin coming back from being abandoned by it's only developer, admin and moderator. Twice.

Is it time to move on?

Other Kbin instances - https://fedidb.org/software/kbinMbin instances - https://fedidb.org/software/mbin

Or try https://piefed.social for something completely different.

Pamasich,
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Ernest hasn't abandoned kbin this time, he did post an update last week.

Today, I'm going for a minor procedure at the hospital, and I won't be available for the next 2-4 days. When I return, I'll push all the corrections and fixes I've been working on and present plans for the near future.

Him not being back yet probably means the hospital procedure didn't go as smoothly as expected, but he's not gone on purpose.

rimu,
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The CSAM posts from 4 days ago are still on kbin.social. They have been reported, but no action taken.

Drusas,

That's partly a fault of not enough kbin users stepping up to moderate magazines.

ProdigalFrog,
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It seems like having more admins here would be greatly beneficial in combatting that problem. Is Ernest open to having additional admins? AFAIK he is the only one, and he's cleary biting off more than he can chew.

Drusas,

I'm talking more about admins of specific magazines. I don't know where Ernest stands on instance admins.

SharkAttak,
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So you went and thought: "Let's take this chance to make an unverified claim and advertise this other instances in a single post!"
but it was a shitty move, let me tell you.

rimu,
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Pamasich,
@Pamasich@kbin.social avatar

Ernest has said in the update I mentioned in my other comment that

When I return, I'll push all the corrections and fixes I've been working on

This means he has made local commits over those 2 months that simply haven't been pushed yet.

Also, there is in fact a commit made 4 days ago. Though not from ernest.

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.social avatar

Call me petty but I'm gonna block this piefed thing..

Oofnik, in Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers

Hear hear!

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