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speck, in /kbin Issues

Longer comments have a band at the bottom of the text with a double arrow which, when click on it, is meant expand and show the rest of the text. On mobile, it doesn't uncover all the text. Is there an option to disable this feature so that comments are not collapsed?

Pamasich, in I cannot see some threads. Is there something wrong with my account or is is a bug?
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Have you blocked anyone? There's a bug that causes certain threads, including your own, to not be visible to you outside your profile. It's caused by you blocking anyone at all iirc. Or maybe it's about blocking domains, I forgot the specifics, but try removing any and all blocks and see if that solved it.

It's fixed in the latest code iirc, but there's not been a stable release yet that incorporates the change.

Additionally, and I have no idea if this is related, I cannot send direct messages to anyone outside of kbin.social

This is correct, direct messages only work on the same instance currently. If I remember the previous discussions about it correctly, this is intentional for some undisclosed (or lost to time?) reason currently. Like, the developer has specifically added code to cause this behavior, I assume because there were worse issues with it.

V17,

Thank you, that was it! I have blocked lemmy.ml around the same time, after unblocking it the issue seems to be fixed!

The fact that the blocking wasn't 100% and lemmy.ml still sometimes showed in the feed is also a bit of an issue, but that one didn't break the site in any way, so whatever and hopefully it will work properly in the future.

Pamasich,
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lemmy.ml still sometimes showed in the feed

I think the issue there is probably that the block applies to what's in the (some.domain) next to threads. For non-link threads, it's hidden, but it's the instance the thread was created on. But for threads that link to an article, image, video, or anything else, it's the domain the link points to. So a thread linking to a youtube video will have youtube.com as its domain. And only blocking youtube.com will hide it, not blocking the instance the thread is from.

It think ideally both, the target of the link and the owning instance of the thread, should be accounted for by the block functionality. But I don't think that's currently the case.

Pamasich,
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lemmy.ml still sometimes showed in the feed

In what way?

Even if lemmy.ml is blocked or even defederated, its communities should remain, just not threads and comments made by lemmy.ml users. But you might still see @lemmy.ml communities show up in your feed if someone from lemmy.world or kbin.social made a thread there.

V17,

I am quite new to Lemmy and I don't yet understand specifics like this, so that may well have been it. Thanks.

ernest, in So, what's the status on the update? (edit: ernest responded)
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I've already discussed some of the reasons on Matrix, but today, I'll try to briefly explain what's going on here. Due to the increasing popularity of kbin, infrastructure changes, the cost of maintaining instances, and development-related priorities, I wasn't able to deliver the milestones on time, which are crucial for project funding (even though I'm really close to achieving that). I wasn't prepared for this and didn't anticipate such a delay in terms of the savings I allocated for all of this. The servers are still being maintained with the donations that came through buymycoffe, but there are additional costs like living expenses and other obligations. So, I had to take up temporary work to ensure the continued development of the project.

This year has also brought many other unexpected personal problems, as I mentioned earlier. Now, another one has been added to that list – I had to end my marriage and a fifteen-year-long relationship. While it's not a sudden decision, it's never easy, but it has turned out to be more challenging than I anticipated. Not just for me, and this time, I want to dedicate as much time as necessary to conclude the matter properly. I had to learn how to do many things from scratch, set up a new work environment, establish daily routines, and more.

So, why all these deadlines and promises?
It was probably the only way for me to accomplish at least the absolute minimum. There's a lot of my own code waiting for review on my local branches, but it's genuinely hard for me to push myself to it for now. The infrastructure also requires fine-tuning, and Piotr is helping me with that. And the days are passing by very quickly.

However, I'm almost ready to continue on this journey, so you can expect that in the near future, there will be a banner with information and the update date of the instance and release. After that, we will work on avoiding such longer development downtimes in case of my absence.

@a @RealM @Pamasich

RealM,
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Sounds like a lot of personal problems, wish you all the best with them!

Regarding the funding, do you think you can set up an alternative way of donating that accepts other payment options like PayPal? Personally I'm not using a credit card, which is the only payment option one can use on your buymeacoffee.

Pamasich, (edited )
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Ernest linked Patreon and Liberapay on a previous thread. I think both support Paypal.

RealM,
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Oh man, I totally missed that link by just skimming over the post back when it was posted...
Thank you!

I'll try to make an effort to actually read things more carefully in the future >_>

Zedstrian,

Liberapay doesn't appear to support PayPal, but Patreon does.

Pamasich, (edited )
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Oh, it seems to support PayPal only when the recipient uses PayPal as the payment processor. Is what the FAQ says. In which case PayPal is required, not just an option. TIL

ContentConsumer9999,

Can you link to the Matrix space you mentioned? I didn't know there was one about Kbin.

Kierunkowy74,
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https://matrix.to/#/#kbin-space:matrix.org

Kierunkowy74,
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Yes, something breaks in matrix.to links on /kbin, so you have to copy and paste the URL.

Pamasich,
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Worth noting you can also post it as a markdown link, like this.

[like this](https://matrix.to/#/#kbin-space:matrix.org)

Then it's clickable even on kbin.

laurens,
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wishing you all the best Ernest!

LollerCorleone,
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Sorry to hear that Ernest, I hope thing start looking better for you soon! Take your time with the development, we can wait.

CyberCatBytes,
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I'm sorry to hear, I hope u feel better and pls take as much time as u need

aeternum,

sorry to hear about your marriage :(

But on a lighter note, keep up the good work on kbin!

8BitFriendly,
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Wishing you the best, Ernest. Take your time to get things sorted out. As I've said before, we can wait :)

a-man-from-earth, in So, what's the status on the update? (edit: ernest responded)
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  • RealM,
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    Let a man have a break without psychologically analyzing him lmao

    density, in We need more / faster moderation
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    ummm i think you are a bit confused.

    for example: https://kbin.social/m/firefox@lemmy.ml does in fact identify @ernest as the admin.

    however if you visit it at the home instance https://lemmy.ml/c/firefox you will see the actual mod is https://lemmy.ml/u/k_o_t

    Here is an issue in the kbin repo related to this: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/223

    I think there might be a more comprehensive issue elsewhere.

    Whiskeyomega,
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    2 Things there. I was mainly talking about the kbin.social template magazines like tech or opensource but also
    The other problem is that reports from kbin are not getting to other instances AFAIK so we must self moderate other instances that appear on here
    I do the same for my mastodon instance. I see a user doing something against the rules via another instance their federated profile is limited or suspended from my own instance

    plantstho, in We need more / faster moderation

    I like so many things about kbin, but definitely don't need another unmoderated spammy site to visit. I check back every few weeks, and nothing seems to improve.

    Given the apparent inability to implement blocking, I'm not terribly hopeful.

    abff08f4813c,

    There's reason to be hopeful now. Ernest has posted an update about instance moderators who will be able to moderate mags that are either admin owned (and so otherwise wouldn't have other moderators to moderate them) or for those mags which are abandoned.

    https://kbin.social/m/kbinDevlog/t/598708/kbin-RTR-3-The-role-of-a-moderator-at-the-instance

    Whiskeyomega,
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    Yea its great news.

    girl, in We need more / faster moderation

    Coming from another instance, I really can’t wait for kbin to fix this issue. Every time I see spam, it’s from kbin because of the lack of moderation. I don’t understand why only the instance admin is able to moderate.

    BlueForestDev, in We need more / faster moderation
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  • TheArstaInventor,
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    Lol what??

    cacheson, in We need more / faster moderation
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    All of your posts went through, there's just a bug with sorting. You should delete the duplicates. Unless perhaps the duplication is a commentary on the lack of moderation?

    Whiskeyomega,
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    Yea didnt even see them come up. Deleted the others.

    cacheson,
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    It's an annoying combination of bugs. Basically just look at "newest" after posting, and upvote your post to make it visible.

    melroy, in Are there any kbin instances which are up to date with the source code?
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    https://kbin.melroy.org is running the latest Mbin version. Which is a fork of Kbin.

    debounced, in Are there any kbin instances which are up to date with the source code?
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    i update kbin.run to stay in sync with the most recent commit to the dev branch on a regular basis, although the update frequency is much lower now compared to 4 months ago... it's a "bare metal" install (no docker), so i made a very simple shell script to update it. half the time no one notices until they refresh the page or get inadvertently logged out due to a backend cache getting cleared. you're welcome to try it out if you'd like.

    melroy,
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    Which is now also running the forked version (Mbin).

    SuperSpaceFan, in October: kbin.social planned technical outage

    I’m excited about the upcoming update that will roll out the API for kbin.social. Is there any updated information that can be shared about the timing of the roll-out?

    Pamasich,
    @Pamasich@kbin.social avatar

    So, I made a new thread asking about the status and ernest responded to it.

    It seems there's been some unexpected irl issues that have prevented ernest from properly working on the update.

    However, I'm almost ready to continue on this journey, so you can expect that in the near future, there will be a banner with information and the update date of the instance and release. After that, we will work on avoiding such longer development downtimes in case of my absence.

    tekeous, in Are there any kbin instances which are up to date with the source code?

    I used to run an instance, and one of the reasons that I stopped was there is no good way to update it. If I pulled the source code again and recompiled the Docker it just wouldn’t start. Wiped the database and it still wouldn’t start.

    This is why I still tell people Kbin is not production ready.

    baggachipz,
    @baggachipz@kbin.social avatar

    That's a shame, because I much prefer the interface to Lemmy's.

    abff08f4813c,

    Interesting. I'm looking to run my own single user instance, so this is something to keep in mind I suppose.

    zimzat,
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    I was going to get involved in the development but after 4 months they still haven't merged the PR which makes it easier to onboard new developers (and also makes it easier to spin up new or update existing environments) so I've reconsidered where to spend my time. Which is a shame because when I saw kbin was built on Symfony in PHP I had very high hopes for it. I think the onslaught of new users completely overwhelmed the developer to where maintaining the instance took priority over developing it, which in the end makes it more likely to die off instead. /rant

    (the PR in question)

    e569668, in Are there any kbin instances which are up to date with the source code?
    @e569668@fedia.io avatar

    I don't know of every instance of course, but from the general purpose ones the order of up-to-date from most to least at the time of posting would be something like: kbin.run, fedia.io, kbin.cafe, artemis.camp (specific API branch), kbin.social.

    But there's also other considerations. fedia has a double post/comment issue and a low amount of 500s. Artemis has been giving me a lot of 500s, can't upvote anymore (just reloads the page), commenting doesn't always federate. Many instance admins seem to have disappeared since 3 months ago. I'm not sure what life is like on instances I'm not actively using so there might be issues unknown to me.

    Edit: the keys that I look for are localization / ui changes. "more" dropdown now has "more from domain" on updated instances. The UI for the sidebar is different, and most recently the footer is differently styled. There's also the federation list of instances page in the footer now.

    CarlsIII, in Testing to see if my posts still become invisible to me.

    I have received my first comment on this post, and yes, I am unable to view it. Just the notification.

    To answer the part of your question that I could read, yes I have five instances blocked. Does that prevent me from viewing comments on my own posts in other instances?

    FfaerieOxide,
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    Unblock all instances; see if fix.

    CarlsIII,

    Strangely, that fixed it.

    So thank you, but now I might have to see stuff from those problematic instances, so, kind of a lateral move I guess.

    FfaerieOxide,
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    I know, it's weird. And if you post a new image it should say "We are working on the issue" but the image will still post.

    ryan,

    It's related to this issue: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/1019

    Also, this appears to be very kbin.social specific at the moment at least. I went around and checked kbin.cafe, kbin.melroy.org, fedia.io; disabled federation on each but all of them had their own domains shown for local posts. It seems only kbin.social is currently stripping domains from new posts made to kbin.social, causing the inability for any kbin.social users to view those posts if they block any domain (to clarify, this affects kbin.social posts FOR kbin.social users. You won't be able to see this issue from a remote instance, as the posts do show as the domain kbin.social over on say, fedia.io. It's only on kbin.social that posts to kbin.social are losing the domain)

    Basically, this was fixed in the source code a month ago, but kbin.social itself (the only instance experiencing this issue) doesn't have the fix loaded in yet.

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