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readbeanicecream, in Federation Delays
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@roguetrick I really like kbin and want it to succeed, but between the outages, spam, and errors it is really difficult to use.

I have accounts on beehaw, mastodon, and pixelfed. I am open to other suggestions, but once I find a "home" (on kbin or otherwise) I will delete the others.

Pamasich, in To those genuinely interested in moderating
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I assume ownership requests need to be manually approved by ernest, right? I've tried applying to some (not ernest-managed ones) weeks ago because of spam on them and nothing happened yet.

Kierunkowy74, in Any API Updates?
@Kierunkowy74@kbin.social avatar

API has not been enabled on kbin.social yet, but is already active on https://kbin.earth

CoffeeAddict,
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Good to know! I guess we will have to wait for ernest to come back then to enable it on kbin.social.

I hope he is doing well, his last post mentioned a hospital visit.

ISometimesAdmin, in EXIT 0.1.0: Export subscriptions across kbin/mbin instances
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Cool that this is a thing!

shazbot, in Any way to export and import subscriptions?

A bit late, but I saw your post and decided to make a tool for this. Hope this helps.

originalucifer, in So blimey - what happened there?
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

its not the outage that bothers me, its the complete lack of communication.

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Exactly this. There’s no way to know what’s going on when kbin goes down. It would be nice if there was a kbin Mastodon account or something people could check for information when the site is down.

Erikatharsis, in A relatively easy way to disable the "random posts" or "random threads" sections (desktop web browser) + suggestions for sidebar
@Erikatharsis@kbin.social avatar

Forgive me for boosting my own thread; I just want to make sure this tutorial is visible on "hot", since this is a potential fix to a problem a lot of people are having.

kindenough,
@kindenough@kbin.social avatar

Thnx, this was bothering me for quite a while.

HubertManne, in Can registrations on kbin.social be disabled to stop spammers
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you know I think one of the smarter things facebook did was only allowing edu emails initially or google allowing current users to send invites.

snooggums,
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Facebook doing edu (initially only one school) only was to target a specific audience. Google followed the exclusivity model to gain hype and encourage word of mouth.

Neither did it for security reasons and both switched to open sign-ups once they reached a certain level of users.

HubertManne,
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I did not work at either at levels where I would know their reasons but whatever their reasons it did make growth in the start slow and steady.

BasicTraveler,

Getting a free .edu account is trivial.

HubertManne,
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not for spammers. it was a nice first level filter till they had the resources to do more effective spam fighting (which they don't do all that well)

BasicTraveler,

No, it's incredibly easy to get a .edu account.

HubertManne,
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Why don't automated spam systems use them then? Its easy for an individual but its not super automately like google. At least at my alma matter its not.

BasicTraveler,

I think you're thinking 4 year college, not 2 years. It takes a lot of effort and money to apply to a 4 year school. It takes like 5 minutes to apply at your local community college online and get a .edu email address, and it's free.

Using .edu as some sort of validation is a terrible idea because it's something anyone can get with just a few minutes of work.

HubertManne,
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yeah thats for an an individual though. A robotic spam account that needs to make a thousand accounts automatically is not going to make one so easily. spam from individuals is much easier to deal with than machine spam.

BasicTraveler,

It is stupid easy to get a free .edu account. It will not hamper spammers in the slightest. Even if they don’t want to make a few .edu accounts a day to do their spamming, they can just buy .edu accounts in bulk for about 10 cents per. No one is making thousands of kbin accounts to spam from, they make a handful a day, and use them till they get banned. Then they make a few more.

.edu accounts are a terrible way to try and prevent spam on kbin. There is literally an industry around generating fake .edu accounts. You can buy them in bulk. Some colleges receive 10’s of thousands of fake applications a month trying to get free .edu emails.

HubertManne,
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Yeah I had no idea they could be bought it bulk. I thought you had to be registered. Granted there are all the for profit colleges now. Would not be surprised if they straight sold them directly.

bluGill, in I Still Like Kbin.social

One day is annoying, but bearable. much longer and I won't have a choice but switch. I like kbin, but the mbin team says some things that I find concerning about kbin - I wish the two could patch up their differences.

FfaerieOxide,
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I couldn't find any decent k/m bin instances when I was looking during the most recent outage.

olorin99,
@olorin99@kbin.earth avatar

I'm curious what counts as a decent instance for you?

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I'm curious what counts as a decent instance for you?

Open signups, non-US servers, GDPR-compliant, file uploads, local magazines among other attributes.

Also if you visit an instance and it appears that whoever runs it never even conceived you might not be viewing it from a phone, that's a turn off.

wagesj45,
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the mbin team says some things that I find concerning about kbin

What are they saying?

bluGill,

kbin doesn't accept contributions. It is a one person project despit appearing to be community driven.

I don't know what is true but that is a concerning accusation.

Pamasich,
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The project definitely accepts contributions, the mbin devs have contributed to kbin before and a few weeks ago a minor code change was committed and merged by someone other than ernest.

As I understand it, the issue is that people with merge permissions other than ernest are only allowed to merge their own pull requests, not those of third parties, which require a review from ernest.
(At least that's what I've seen explained before, though I haven't seen any proof of it so I don't fully know if it's real.)

This means a majority of contributors can't get their pull requests merged when ernest is gone. Which is why they went and made mbin when he was gone for months last time.

Raffster, in Request for an off-site status communication method and more admins to help run the site & communicate with users

Yes please. I like kbin a lot and fear that this is the only option there is, given the size of the project.

QualifiedKitten, in I Still Like Kbin.social

I almost exclusively browse by hot, so I very rarely see any spam (of course, that's thanks to those of you who browse by new!), but I have another account on lemmy.world, so I got to spend some time yesterday scrolling there and blocking LOTS of communities from my feed. Mostly just stuff in languages I don't know, but still, a different set of "junk" to work on filtering out.

I'm also still very much down with kbin.social, and I don't even use the microblogging features at all. I figure, if I want something polished with minimal downtime, I could always go back to the old places, but I'd rather see/help something better grow.

Kierunkowy74, in So blimey - what happened there?
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This time, another official /kbin server, in Polish (karab.in) was working during all the kbin.social's sleep.

I will repost my comment from https://kbin.social/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/838165/What-s-going-on-with-kbin-social

This time is probably unrelated to @ernest's supposed inactivity. Actually, his another /kbin server, https://karab.in has been brought back on 15 of February.

Why not kbin.social? Well, this server is co-administered by FTdL (Technology for People Foundation) (https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/177112).

Entire FTdL infrastructure was down from 16 o'clock in Cracow to this morning.

HeartyBeast,

Thank you. That makes sense

HarkMahlberg,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

Oh wow, what a day for the fediverse huh? Kbin's infrastructure went down, Lemmy.ml's certs expired (or so Firefox told me), and a ton of Misskey servers got hacked and started botspamming everyone.

_haha_oh_wow_, in I Still Like Kbin.social
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I like Kbin too. I also like Lemmy. They are both good if you ask me.

FfaerieOxide,
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I also like Lemmy.

Lemmy hasn't grabbed me yet like kbin has. Is mastodon as integrated with lemmy as it is with kbin?

Apparently you can't say fag on lemmy.world which could cause some problems with some of the magazines I mod here. Also I'm left with negative feelings from lemmy.world not federating images and posts I reply to .world threads from .social.

-mygrad is right out because I do not believe making common cause with the allies of people who want my friends dead is "...of a progressive character".

.ml has similar issues to the above two

blajah.zone I have no issue with but I just don't want that to be my home instance. I actually have been trying to break their monopoly on 196 for a while now

Beehaw is fine but they're always talking about defederating so that basket seems unfit to slip my eggs into.

exploding heads is a shit instance for fascists

sh.itjust.works—and this is no slight toward or reflection on present company—seems like that place for people who complain about "censorship" and "echo chambers" when they get asked to leave a dunkin doughnuts for sig heiling on the counter while making a hitler 'stache out of a cruller. Again not you, I am sure you are lovely, but when someone complains they can't be transphobic and their account is more than 3 weeks old, odds are good "@sh.itjust.works" is trailing their handle.

originalucifer, in I Still Like Kbin.social
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i donate financially to kbin, and i dont use it other than as a remote, federating platform. the outage means nothing to me personally.

still would be nice to get a little administrative communication on a system designed for.. ya know, communication.

BiggestBulb, in Request for an off-site status communication method and more admins to help run the site & communicate with users
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Honestly, I really fear for both kbin and mbin. I was really hoping for more substantial changes in both by this time, but honestly it's just staying largely the same.

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