livus

livus, 5 days ago

Wait what? That's so annoying.

livus, 14 days ago

Not sure where you're seeing them... it's always been in the microblog section, you can also follow individuals on Mastodon. They also come up in searches and hashtags.

Don't be intimidated, interaction works just fine!

livus, 23 days ago

@fiat_lux thanks!!!

livus, 23 days ago

@ernest thank you! Please have a break so you can enjoy the weekend too!

livus, 21 days ago

The ?p=1 workaround works with that too for me
https://kbin.social/sub/newest?p=1

livus, 28 days ago

Looks like it's affecting at least a dozen people now.

livus, 28 days ago

Normally if nobody from an instance has subscribed it doesn't show up in searches from that instance. You have to manually type the exact url and subscribe that way. Once one person has done it, it will show up.

livus, 1 month ago

This all sounds great, thanks @ernest!

livus, 1 month ago

I thought Lemmy devs receive funding from a European project thingy.

livus, 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

Unclassified microblogs (e.g. from Mastodon users) usually end up in random, but I'm not sure how to post them intentionally since I don't use the microblog feature much. Hopefully someone else can chime in with an answer for this.

I can answer this, go to your own profile, choose add new post (not thread) and then from the "select a magazine" dropdown choose random. Then just use your @ tag like normal if you want to @ someone in the fediverse.

@TamperTanuki

livus, 1 month ago

Me too. I think there are a bunch of federation issues in parts of the fediverse.

Mod logs are not working for me but everything else is great.

livus, 1 month ago

Federation seems to be much better for me now!

livus, 1 month ago

Hahaha I got like 10! I am but a grasshopper.

But yeah we seem to be able to converse in near real time again! Hoping this sticks.

livus, 1 month ago

Last I heard, Buymeacoffee is for buying Ernest beers, Librepay and Patreon are for donating to kbin.

Links to all three are here.

livus, 1 month ago

@ernest that's great to hear. I really hope the unfortunate events are behind you. Please take some time to enjoy life though as well as coding.

I can't offer much but I will put my hand up to act as one of the back up mods for a few of the spammiest communities.

livus, 1 month ago

@PugJesus I don't know. I really hope he's okay.

I have accounts around the place but this is my favourite so I don't mind waiting.

livus, 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide good catch. Wtf.

livus, 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide me too. I like it, I love the platform, I don't have an issue with the outages, and I like the way Ernest understands the fediverse.

If there's an outage fine, I just go to another fediverse account til kbin.social comes back. We all have other things in our life, sometimes projects have to take a back seat.

Also I have a lot of sympathy for Ernest wanting to retain control. It's his vision, let's let him do it his way.

Edit: the spam seems to be on mags that have Ernest as sole mod, so that might be an easy fix.

livus, 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide yes! Well not officially, but after Arotrios had been gone a long time I applied to mod it, mainly as a sort of caretaker/safe pair of hands so that Arotrios will definitely get it back if he returns.

I don't know why/where Arotrios went. I kind of thought he'd be back by now.

livus, 3 months ago

@ernest thanks, it's wonderful.

livus, 3 months ago

Honestly @ernest I don't think you have anything to worry about.

It is your platform. Make it at your own pace. Most of us are very happy to be invited on this journey and recognise that there are going to be ups and downs.

livus, 4 months ago

Yeah I don't have most of these issues either (like seeing span tags).

Firefox on android.

livus, 4 months ago

That's so weird, I don't have this problem until p2.

livus, 4 months ago

I really love vanilla kbin on mobile, it works fine for me!!

I'm using the second light theme, classic view, and have tweaked a lot of the settings.

The only problem is threading gets a bit weird on long threads sometimes.

I checked it on Chrome (ugh) and it's better on Firefox though.

livus, 4 months ago

@Gamers_Mate another one now called @bekecot spamming the same stuff in what looks like Hungarian.

livus, 4 months ago (edited 4 months ago)

@billothekid2 I'm with @FaceDeer on this, it's way better to know you have a Downvote Fairy than to just think no one appreciates your comments.

Back on reddit it happens a lot, but the targets are more likely to feel discouraged or think the person they are replying to is the one downvoting them.

Besides, I had someone doing this to me here on kbin for a couple of days and they are not someone I ever downvoted or had even argued with.

I asked them to stop and they downvoted me one last time and then stopped. I don't think they'd realized I can see them.

So the cause isn't that people can see your downvotes, it's that some people are just dicks.

livus, 4 months ago

@magnetosphere but trolls stalk people anyway, I've had Downvote Fairies on reddit and kbin.

The kbin one wasn't even someone I'd downvoted.

livus, 4 months ago

@billothekid2 honestly, it's not an uncommon phenomenon, it has nothing to do with seeing your downvotes.

Over the years on reddit, where votes are anonymous, I would sometimes notice all my comments being downvoted (usually after some kind of altercation, my favourite was the guy who singled me out for criticizing Margaret Thatcher... hardly a hot take).

In fact iirc reddit had to change its interface so that voting on comments from a person's profile page doesn't change their comment count.

Some people are just petty. I think it's better to at least know when it's happening so I can avoid that person.

livus, 4 months ago

@FaceDeer the super annoying thing on reddit would be when I was having a polite discussion with someone and a third party came along and silently downvoted everything they said to me.

Then they'd get all annoyed assuming it was me who did it.

livus, 4 months ago

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568

Kbin.social is being transparent about the fact that votes* on the fediverse can be accessed by the public

This is important. The kind of petty, persevering trolls that @billothekid2 is worried about are exactly the kind of people who'd be likely to look up who downvoted them.

Kbin just makes it clear to us that this info is out there. Anonymous voting isn't possible in federated social media.

livus, 4 months ago

@magnetosphere just the nature of the internet.

Sometimes people get weird bees in their bonnet. Personally I'd much rather know who it's coming from.

If I put a lot of effort into a comment or post and it gets downvoted by someone out of spite, I'd much rather know that's what happened than sit there wondering what's wrong with my post.

livus, 4 months ago

@FaceDeer interesting, wonder if it was the same person!

The other thing that hasn't bern mentioned yet is vote manipulation is easy to spot on kbin.

When reddit first migrated here I remember someone being called out for having 3 or 4 profiles upvote/downvote all the same things.

livus, 4 months ago

@billothekid2 this exchange raises another point. You and @snooggums downvoting each other here seem to be engaging in "downvote-to-disagree" with each other.

I don't see nearly as much of this on kbin as I do on, say, lemmy.world and I'm sure it's because of our more transparent voting system.

I'm personally not a fan because I think it's vaguely hostile and discourages open discussion.

livus, 4 months ago

@FaceDeer yeah that secret downvoting thing was super passive-aggressive.

What was most annoying about blocks was that bug where you couldn't reply to anyone downthread of a comment by the person who blocked you, so they could effectively end your other conversations with other people.

livus, 4 months ago

The way I see it, downvotes = "I wish this comment didn't exist" and doing it to punish someone for having a discussion with us is weird, since social media is all about discussions, and exchanging disagreeing points of view is interesting.

livus, 4 months ago

Fair enough. I think my dick threshold is pretty high, they have to be spamming or griefing or something like that.

livus, 4 months ago

@magnetosphere this! I love it when someone points out stuff I haven't considered, especially if it turns out I'm wrong. Acknowleding that is the fastest way to actually turn it around and become right again.

livus, 4 months ago

@OpenStars totally!

I originally only came here for something to do during the blackout, but it's just so much better here that I ended up never going back.

livus, 4 months ago

@billothekid2 I just thought of another aspect.

On reddit about 8 years ago there was a bunch of discussion of how people were running automated scripts to downvote everything by people they didn't like or whatever.

And reddit had to build in a safeguard so those automated script downvotes no longer counted. Those kinds of shenannigans would be much easier to spot in kbin's current system.

livus, 4 months ago

@daredevil hey how did you get rid of it altogether?

I just noticed we had a "frenworld" (copy of a subreddit that was notoriously racist, antisemitic etc) and requested ownership thinking I could delete it but now it's listed as a magazine I mod and I can't seem to either delete it or detatch myself from it. I don't want it listed under mags I mod! Help!

@Ernest @ernest @PugJesus

livus, 4 months ago

@PugJesus you mean the Delete button? I hit that but all it did was change it to a "Restore" button.

I think this means people get "Empty" when they visit @frenworld. But the racist magazine is still listed on my profile as a magazine I moderate, which is the last thing I want.

livus, 4 months ago

@daredevil sorry, I should have updated. I messaged Ernest and he took took it off my profile.

I didn't realise it was a known issue, I thought I was just glitching, sinci it hadn't happened to @PugJesus.

livus, 4 months ago

@LeGaosaure I don't think that we have cross-platform moderation yet but I'm pretty sure I saw @ernest say it will come.

In the meantime, you could always create a backup account over here and request ownership that way.

livus, 4 months ago

@LeGaosaure definitely, and that way you can create guidelines for posting. My tiny community worldwithoutus has barely needed any moderation so far!

livus, 4 months ago

@LeGaosaure good luck with it. Is it LimbusCompany? I don't actually know what that is, but I've subscribed so I can upvote you.