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Septimaeus, (edited ) in Survey reveals tough job market for Gen Z grads due to employer preferences

Let’s stop this idiotic hazing ritual. 15 years ago I was a recent grad and people were saying similar stuff. These attitudes kept people my age out of many workplaces. It was shortsighted.

I was rejected many times before I got my first job, and managers in my first roles used my age against me a lot, especially when I didn’t stay in my lane. Finally a company removed my leash and treated me as an opportunity rather than a threat, and they got a big return on that investment, but it took years to find a place like that.

We were acquired and I’m doing other stuff now, but when I see my products in the wild, I sometimes wonder about all those hiring managers who couldn’t see past my age. Did they ever learn that unreplaceable means unpromotable? Did they ever learn to have a bench? What would we have built together if they weren’t so afraid of change?

Of course this is just one story, and profit isn’t a proper motive for doing what’s right. But those who don’t care that ageism is bad for society should at least consider that it’s bad for business and their careers.

GuyMcGuy,

The thing is people come and go through this phase of life relatively briefly. Then it’s not their problem anymore. Nobody is in it long enough to care to change it.

Septimaeus, (edited )

Maybe so, but if our generation knows what it’s like to find the ladders pulled up, and we don’t care enough to put them back for the younger people behind us, who will?

aaaaaaadjsf, in Survey reveals tough job market for Gen Z grads due to employer preferences
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1 in 5 employers have had a recent college graduate bring a parent to a job interview

Who the hell does that? Even by highschool kids should be sorting out their life affairs independent of their parents.

Though the reason behind recent graduates getting looked over is simple. There are a lot of people on the job market with experience, especially in industries like tech with the tech bubble bursting (probably the worst time to graduate in tech is now), so recent graduates have to compete with experienced workers. And the experienced worker will win almost every time. Similar happened after 2008 to recent millenial graduates, it’s when the whole “millenials are lazy/immature” thing kicked off. It’s seems to be a cycle. In a decades time/when the next major global economic event takes place, experienced Gen Z workers will be getting all the job offers, and the next generation to graduate will get the short end of the stick.

magnetosphere,
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I’ve never been in a position to make hiring decisions, and probably never will. If I ever am, though, an interviewee being interviewed with a parent would be a HUGE red flag (unless there was an obvious medical reason).

If the parent was just there for moral support and stayed in the lobby, fine. Unusual, but fine.

420blazeit69,

The “1 in 5” probably makes it sound way more prevalent than it actually is.

  • Say you have 5 companies that interviewed 200 people each in the recent past
  • 1 candidate had a parent come to their interview (which could mean “driving them to the interview and waiting in the lobby,” which is still weird but nowhere near the connotation of “sat in and listened to interview questions”)
  • 1 in 5 companies will report they’ve had a parent come to an interview, even though 0.1% of candidates brought a parent
shalafi, in Survey reveals tough job market for Gen Z grads due to employer preferences

38% of employers avoid hiring recent college graduates in favor of older employees

My god y’all are entitled little bitches.

“They’re hiring people with life and professional experience vs. ME! I got a piece of paper and the world owes me all the things!

Yes, generally speaking, GenZ has it worst of all. They got it worse than the Boomers, GenX (me) and the Millennials. No doubt.

But maybe the constant whining and bitching has something to do with being a pain in the ass to employ?

My small employer is wildly liberal (and successful!), not good enough for GenZ. Not HR, but I onboard all the new people and I can tell who will last and who won’t given their age.

magnetosphere, (edited )
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People invest insane amounts of money in a college degree. After spending years to earn that “piece of paper”, hoping for a decent job in return isn’t entitlement.

These are people who are looking for an opportunity to earn money; they’re not expecting a handout.

GBU_28,

Huh? The degree is a gamble. You hedge the bet by getting good grades, networking, and leading your industry on needed skills. If you don’t graduate with attractive skills, you attended a social club.

the_q,

You didn’t need to tell us your were Gen x… You guys are a hip replacement away from being boomers.

Skates,

A genx with a hip replacement will still be a genx, but with now less hip pains. Do you think… Hips somehow… Relate to age?

Is this a “count the rings thing” taught to genz now? Is Shakira some sort of prophet for you guys, because of “hips don’t lie”?

Peppycito,

And you guys are just 30 years of working for a living away from the same fate. Welcome to the club.

ShimmeringKoi, in Survey reveals tough job market for Gen Z grads due to employer preferences
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Sgt_choke_n_stroke, in Survey reveals tough job market for Gen Z grads due to employer preferences

This reads like those shitty china articles where the nation’s youth are unemployed

Hexbear2, in Survey reveals tough job market for Gen Z grads due to employer preferences

First career job I had, I was 26, and the next youngest employee was over 50. I had a co-worker who was 70. This is such a fucked state of affairs. We should all be retiring by about 55-60.

millie, in Which 3 'Star Trek' Shows Exist In 'For All Mankind' Confirmed By Executive Producer

This article was extremely confusing without the context of what this show is. I thought they were talking about some new Star Trek series with an alternate history.

ValueSubtracted,
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Yeah…I generally use verbatim headlines as post titles, but maybe I’ll add some quotation marks in this case.

Volkditty, in Which 3 'Star Trek' Shows Exist In 'For All Mankind' Confirmed By Executive Producer

This is a crime against Star Trek: The Animated Series.

Sanctus, in I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request as it goes against OpenAI use policy
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

The beginning of the end.

Gargantu8, in I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request as it goes against OpenAI use policy

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  • ValueSubtracted,
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    It looks like they may have done some frenzied patching after this went viral.

    Gargantu8,

    Fascinating!

    Deebster,
    @Deebster@programming.dev avatar

    Same, but I suspect that’s Amazon blocking them all, rather than all the bot accounts fixing the issue.

    LordKitsuna,

    You can still find them using internet archive people were archiving them

    Gargantu8,

    Cool thanks!

    A_A, in I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request as it goes against OpenAI use policy
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    TLDR : Many post for various fake products on the Amazon website and many deceptive tweets on Twitter (now x) were generated using OpenAI and contained flagrant errors.

    Deebster,
    @Deebster@programming.dev avatar

    It’s more that they all contain the same error message, caused by the AI safety rails being triggered.

    A_A,
    @A_A@lemmy.world avatar

    You are absolutely right, although, I wanted to keep my tldr as short as possible.

    tristan, in I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request as it goes against OpenAI use policy

    I’m sorry, but I can’t provide the requested response as it goes against openai’s content policy

    millie, in I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request as it goes against OpenAI use policy

    I can’t find a trace of this anywhere at all. :(

    Telodzrum,

    Same, I checked a few big online storefronts.

    towerful,

    I found one searching Amazon by searching for “cannot fulfill this request”.

    Worparsen Bright Soft Fish Tank Light Led Aquarium Sorry I Cannot Fulfill This Request As It Goes Against Guidelines to Me Use of Words Like Best High-Quality Clear

    A small usb powered fish tank light that has an air hose inlet for bubbles

    Stampela, in StarTrek.website has updated to Lemmy version 0.19.3 (Clear cache/cookies in browser or remove+re-add account in app if experiencing login issues)

    In Voyager I had to “delete” my account from the interface and then add it back again before it worked again. Now in fairness the button shows “log out” while doing so, but still it was an unusual step so probably nice for others to know. :)

    Admin,
    @Admin@startrek.website avatar

    Good to know, thanks! I added it to the post.

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

    This was my experience in Voyager as well.

    jawa21, in StarTrek.website has updated to Lemmy version 0.19.3 (Clear cache/cookies in browser or remove+re-add account in app if experiencing login issues)

    Thanks for the info. I had wondered what was going on. Glad to see the features from 19.5 here.

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