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FriendOfElphaba, in Disney CEO says company will 'quiet the noise' in culture wars

Oh, fuck these companies.

I really hope their employees push back on this bullshit.

PenguinJuice,

Media companies should just focus on making high quality entertainment instead of preaching politics. I think it's obvious the damage it's done to their brand by not adhering to that principle.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Is it? It's obvious that it upset the people who run the state of Florida, but high quality entertainment very frequently comes bundled with some kind of politics, because that entertainment is usually a snapshot of the feelings of the people in the age that created it. I'm not sure which properties you find preachy, but the last thing I remember conservatives being upset about was a gay kiss in a Buzz Lightyear movie or something.

PenguinJuice,

Disney knew what they were doing and that it went too far or they wouldn't have made this statement. The company never cared about LGBTQ, diversity or feminism, they were just pandering and it backfired.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

They knew that they were implementing a gay kiss because there's such a thing as gay couples in the world? Including parents of plenty of kids who'd go to see that movie? What part was too far?

PenguinJuice, (edited )

If I were to guess, people have a problem with sexuality and what they consider advanced sexual topics, on the nose diversity, and feminism at the cost of incompetent or subservient male characters being in their family films.

I think people prefer content such as Toy Story, Bugs Life, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, etc. These were good films that had a universal, moral message without having to do with politics or controversies.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Is it an advanced sexual topic when a hetero married couple, like a child protagonist's parents, have a similar quick peck on the lips? Because if so, that seems overly prudish, and if not, the people who have a problem with it can grow up. To my knowledge, having not seen the movie, that kiss was really only showing that they had someone important in their lives, and I know that Bo Peep could get away with kissing Woody in Toy Story 1 with no controversy at all. There's also still politics within Monsters Inc and Finding Nemo without looking very hard, and I seem to remember the extremely political Wall-E being wildly popular with audiences and critics, even if I didn't care for it.

PenguinJuice,

It's okay to be prudish when it comes to families and children. They don't need to grow up. If you want to make movies that are not overly prudish and targeted at children you are more than welcome to. No one is stopping you.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Disney movies have had pecks on the lips since the beginning of time. Presumably these children's parents kiss in front of them the same way all the time.

PenguinJuice,

Presumably.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I mean, yeah, the happy marriages.

TipRing,
@TipRing@kbin.social avatar

Sleeping Beauty was a racy sexual culture war statement.

Itty53,
@Itty53@kbin.social avatar

He's a fascist troll. Block him. Check his history. Classic "rack up reputation in game subs and then spam right wing hate speech everywhere else". Dude is a total fash troll, again, block him. Fedi works best when we block those guys because just responding to them is spreading their messages through your network.

PenguinJuice,

Agreed. These people are psychotic fascists that need to push their sexual obsessions onto children or "they will die." It's sickening. I'm glad this site is not a reflection of the real world.

Chetzemoka,

Lmfao

Itty53,
@Itty53@kbin.social avatar

Bo Peep and Woody flirting isn't universal ... and being unwed, the sexual innuendo presents a double standard. But that's not politics to you.

But make her a him, call him Beau Peep and change nothing else in the same sentence? "Politics". Ugh.

Unaware7013,

And yet you didn't see parents complaining about hetero couples kissing... 🤔

This is 100% a bigotry issue, they're just using sexuality as their cudgel to attack the LGBT+ community.

AngrilyEatingMuffins,

Showing two people kissing is, “going too far” and “pushing politics” only to fascists like you.

PenguinJuice,

The vast majority clearly agree otherwise Disney wouldn't be in such financial trouble.

AngrilyEatingMuffins, (edited )

holy shit the brainwashing is in real. "such financial trouble" DISNEY?!

THE VAST MAJORITY??? THEIR MOVIES MAKE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

jesus christ you are too stupid and susceptible to be allowed to exist uncritically in society. straight up.

market cap of 170 billion fucking dollars

fucking nazis are too comfortable. doesn't even deny being a fascist. time to arm the fuck up again, kids.

PenguinJuice,

Lmao they are definitely in financial trouble. They've admitted it themselves and this statement is clearly a result of their financial troubles. Keep dreaming though. If this direction was so profitable then they wouldn't be publicly making this statement.

roofuskit,
@roofuskit@kbin.social avatar

When two straight people kiss in a movie does that mean a company is pushing "the straight agenda"?

PenguinJuice,

No.

ImplyingImplications,

Ah yes. Media companies should produce stories with literally no point or purpose! Just like they always have!

PenguinJuice,

They are more than welcome to, but clearly there isn't a large enough audience who wants to see those types of movies, let alone subject their children to it.

Lmaydev,

Representation is incredibly important.

If your solution is don’t show gay couples because it upsets homophobic people then that’s fucking stupid.

Black people had to fight a similar battle to be included in the media. Should they have bent to the racists as well in your opinion?

We know the racists are on the wrong side of history. And anyone sensible knows homophobes and transphobes are as well.

be_excellent_to_each_other,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

Remember folks, there's one cultural detail you can already see emerging at mastodon, firefish, bluesky, lemmy, kbin, beehaw, etc. A much more vocal advocacy for "block first, ask questions later."

Don't engage. Block. Let the fascist bigots find themselves with no one to talk to but each other.

In the old days we called that "don't feed the trolls."

PenguinJuice,

Yes. If they won't let us have the children like we want, we must silence them!

ono, in With democracy on the ballot, the mainstream press must change its ways

“We have to be truthful, not neutral,” she urged. “I would make sure that you don’t just give a platform … to those who want to crash down the constitution and democracy.”

The importance of this cannot be overstated. Here’s hoping the press rises to the challenge of responsible journalism.

sonori,
@sonori@beehaw.org avatar

Ohh great, we’re all gonna die.

Itty53, in NASA clears the air: No evidence that UFOs are aliens
@Itty53@kbin.social avatar

I'm gonna propose to the alien believers a different explanation of UAPs: they're black projects. Yes all those physics defying things are man made, and they probably have an understanding of physics we don't currently know about in the wider public.

Technology trends exist. We can see them. It's no wonder that every generation's stereotype of unidentified craft always always always mimicked the latest generation of military flight tech. That's what's been true since the inception of the whole thing. It's true today too, thirty years from now we'll get a public look at the crafts they're testing out in the skies today. Be that because they get used or because they become obsolete. Thats how it goes.

So why the hearings in Congress? Because they're black projects. We're talking trillions in this rabbit hole. Congress very much has an urgent want to understand what they military might be keeping from it, vis a vis private contractors. We're talking multiple times the budgets of nation-states and we're getting receipts that are basically "trust me bro"s.

But Congress can't very well tell the truth of all that without undermining the American military, and thereby America itself. So they go along with the same "aliens" reasoning, "uhh yeah, let's go with that, okay", and keep pressing for more information.

Is that crazy? Yeah, you bet. But it's no crazier than believing all that and that there's aliens. Because the alien conspiracy crowd asserts virtually everything I just said, just, with aliens. Aliens aren't necessary for any of it though.

In the history of nations there's never been a more sure-fire way to lose democracy than making an enemy of the military complex propping it up. So Congress ought to be careful too, keep a little plausible deniability for themselves.

DrYes,
@DrYes@kbin.social avatar

they probably have an understanding of physics we don't currently know about in the wider public.

I don't believe any secret agencies have a better understanding of fundamental physics. They have better technology and engineering.

Itty53,
@Itty53@kbin.social avatar

If a private, but not secret agency has access to the physics and can't engineer it, there's a question of why. As much as we'd like to disassociate engineering from discovery, they're linked together. Engineering leads to further observation leads to discovery and vice versa back the other direction. It's entirely possible there's "new physics" at play even if they're only theoretical to the Discovery Channel right now. Who's to say, really?

So while I'm not gonna disagree with you, and you're right there's a difference between engineering technology and physics itself, I still don't really see the distinction as that important to the discussion here.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, after all. We're talking about exactly that level of technology, commonly being called physics-defying by many engineers today. That's magic to common understanding, for all intents and purposes, even if it's possible that we could all eventually understand and demystify it given the education to do so.

Until then? Hard to close doors other than just "do we need this for the story". And aliens don't need to be there, hence my whole line of thinking above. That's just another example of "any secret is the exact secret I want it to be" kind of thinking. See also "everything I don't understand is a communist" or more recently, "everything I don't like is woke". I like to make reference to dinosaurs, because no one ever does. Why not? It could be dinosaurs in those crafts too! There's more evidence for that than aliens, right? We know 100% dinosaurs existed, here. They would've had much much more time to develop technology than we did, eons longer. So again why not? "Because it's absurd." Yep. It is. Every argument against it counts against aliens too.

skellener, in U.S. Senate Dems Want to Cancel All Student Lunch Debt: A "Term So Absurd That It Shouldn't Even Exist"
@skellener@kbin.social avatar

Cancel the debt, and institute free student lunch for all students in this country ! No child should be hungry while at school in the US! ✊

ono, in South China Sea: Philippines removes Chinese barrier in contested area

The South China Sea is a rich fishing ground that is believed to hold vast oil and gas reserves.

I didn’t know that. I guess that’s another reason why China is trying to take the area for itself.

scala, in Arriving Now: Fast Passenger Trains From Miami to Orlando

Anyone have a Non paywalled article?

That price seems pretty steep, compared to the $8 worth of tolls and $20-30 worth of gas and around the same time it takes.

mars296,

Yes the pricing is not for locals. Its for tourists that fly in. Lots of people fly in for Disney in Orlando and Miami for beaches or cruises. Now a tourist can hit both cities without flying again or renting a car.

zoe,

archive.ph/PU4Nd

it could have been cheaper if it were mass adopted and subsidized enough

edit: u’r the one who like to travel 1200km by car in one leg lol ? cause ur username felt familiar

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

There are a lot more costs to a car besides gas and tolls that add to the cost of that trip. But even besides that, you get to take 3.5 hours of your life back doing things that you can't do while you're driving.

HappyMeatbag, in 2 Gay Dads Helped Uncover $767,000 Embezzlement Scheme in Texas Town Where 'Officials Called Them Homophobic Slurs'
@HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org avatar

She messed with their child? Oh, fuck her.

Gee, I wonder why she didn’t choose a hard red state when moving to a public park.

If Wheeler was the landlord, are they still paying her rent? How much?

xilliah, in U.S., Texas teacher fired for showing Anne Frank graphic novel to eighth-graders

It was literally written by a 13 year old.

ThunderingJerboa,
@ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social avatar

Well to be fair, it was written by a 13 year old. That includes some things about growing up, so a whole mess of unfiltered thoughts, puberty, masturbation, etc. Some of which was censored by her father (to be fair I doubt she would have wanted all of that stuff actually published).

0x815,

I don’t know whether or not she would have wanted this stuff to be published nor what her father did, but that’s not the issue here. What Texas is doing here is deeply anti-democratic and authoritarian. That reminds us on China’s or Russia’s dictatorship.

End0fLine, in Scientists call for a tree planting drive to help tackle heat waves
@End0fLine@startrek.website avatar

I would like to see more, but, at least in the US, they are getting started on doing this.

Announcement found here

I live in Texas and there are so many small towns that seemed to have forgotten trees exist outside of the trees planted in a private yard. I have only lived in Dallas as far as bigger cities go, but the trees are mostly located in the richer/older neighborhoods. Trees planted next to the curb and cared for by the city are almost non-existent.

ripcord,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

Trees and other plants are also, you know, excellent carbon capture systems.

roldyclark,
@roldyclark@kbin.social avatar

So I got in an argument with a friend who thinks govt is useless. This is exactly the kind of source I’ve been looking for. Where do you keep up with official announcements like this?

readbeanicecream,
@readbeanicecream@kbin.social avatar

@roldyclark @End0fLine

RSS is good place to start: https://www.usda.gov/rss/latest-releases.xml

roldyclark,
@roldyclark@kbin.social avatar

Nice. Brb gonna build a rss feed of all govt websites

readbeanicecream,
@readbeanicecream@kbin.social avatar

@roldyclark @End0fLine Well, if you are interested in the US gov't:

    <outline title="Government" text="Government">
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="http://usda.gov/rss/latest-releases.xml"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.defense.gov/DesktopModules/ArticleCS/RSS.ashx?ContentType=800&amp;Site=945&amp;max=10"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.defense.gov/DesktopModules/ArticleCS/RSS.ashx?max=10&amp;ContentType=1&amp;Site=945"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.defense.gov/DesktopModules/ArticleCS/RSS.ashx?ContentType=9&amp;Site=945&amp;max=10"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.cisa.gov/news.xml"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.cisa.gov/blog.xml"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.dol.gov/rss/releases.xml"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://new.nsf.gov/rss/rss_www_news.xml"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="http://epa.gov/newsreleases/search/rss"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://armypubs.army.mil/News/NewReleasesRSS.aspx"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.navy.mil/DesktopModules/ArticleCS/RSS.ashx?ContentType=1&amp;Site=1067&amp;max=10"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.navy.mil/DesktopModules/ArticleCS/RSS.ashx?ContentType=2&amp;Site=1067&amp;max=10"/>
      <outline type="rss" xmlUrl="https://www.darpa.mil/rss/"/>
    </outline>

roldyclark,
@roldyclark@kbin.social avatar

Wow. You should publish this!

End0fLine,
@End0fLine@startrek.website avatar

I have a particular interest in the heat-island effect so this kind of stuff is always on my radar. This one specifically however I stumbled upon by chance.

As for your friend, I don’t know if it is only a change once I got older, but you will almost never be able to change your friend’s mind. I’ve had conversations along those lines with libertarians many times and there is a distinct lack of logic when discussing government. It’s not worth your time. I may be a bit exhausted by politics after the last eight years.

roldyclark,
@roldyclark@kbin.social avatar

Yeah you’re right. It’s an emotional thing that I won’t be able to argue against unfortunately.

soratoyuki, (edited ) in 6 'Soldiers of Christ' members are in custody after a woman's body was found in a car trunk

"A police spokesperson said Friday that investigators believe they have arrested everyone who is involved and are not looking into Soldiers of Christ any further."

Not sure which prewritten response to choose from... Do I make a joke about how if we defund the police, there won't be any police around to decline to investigate possible human trafficking rings? Or do I make one about QAnon ignoring yet another case of human trafficking coming from there own bizarre christofascist orbit?

style99,
@style99@kbin.social avatar

Kinda hard to make a joke out of some psychos starving a poor woman to death and just leaving the body in the trunk of their car.

HarkMahlberg, in Alex Jones spent over $93,000 in July. Sandy Hook families who sued him have yet to see a dime
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

I keep a metal paint scraper in my car for one purpose and one purpose only: to scrape InfoWars stickers off of street signs.

fiat_lux,

Thankyou for your service o7

Madison_rogue,
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

I keep a metal paint scraper in my car for one purpose and one purpose only: to scrape InfoWars stickers off of street signs.

Not the hero we need, but definitely the hero we deserve...

MrSpArkle, in Kim Davis is ordered to pay $100,000 to same-sex couple she denied marriage license

Folks, pay attention. This is how long the gears of justice take to turn. This couple was wronged almost 10 years ago and only now are they getting some compensation.

Do not let these people into power, their atrocities will be dust in the wind by the time they face a jury.

ono, in What to Know About the New COVID-19 Vaccine

The updated vaccine will be the first COVID-19 shot to be distributed in the way most vaccines have in the past, prior to the pandemic, on the commercial market for around $120-$130 per dose, rather than purchased and provided for by the government. That means that pharmacies and doctors’ offices will purchase the vaccines at their own cost and get reimbursed for the shots. Most insurers, including Medicare and private companies, will continue to cover the vaccine, without co-pays, since it is recommended by the CDC.

UnhappyCamper,
@UnhappyCamper@kbin.social avatar

I wonder if it's the same deal for Canada

LinkOpensChest_wav, in A Decongestant in Cold Medicines Doesn’t Work at All, an F.D.A. Panel Says. The panel’s vote tees up a likely decision by the agency on whether to essentially ban the ingredient, phenylephrine.
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

I feel validated. My doctor recommended taking it when I was congested, and I insisted that it never worked for me.

FfaerieOxide, in A Decongestant in Cold Medicines Doesn’t Work at All, an F.D.A. Panel Says. The panel’s vote tees up a likely decision by the agency on whether to essentially ban the ingredient, phenylephrine.
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Just put pseudoephedrine back over the counter again. Christ.

bloopernova,
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

But someone might make a tiny amount of meth. Therefore everyone must suffer.

Itty53,
@Itty53@kbin.social avatar

therefore everyone must suffer

You do realize you can walk right up to that counter, point to the good stuff, and they'll just give it to you right?

They didn't just put it behind the counter to be pretty back there.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

You do realize you can walk right up to that counter, point to the good stuff, and they'll just give it to you right?

Not after 9.

btaf45,

Just put pseudoephedrine back over the counter again. Christ.

Absolutely. Pseudoephedrine is the real cold medicine. People were saying from the start that phenylephrine didn't work. I almost never used it.

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