Federation Delays

s0ckpuppet, 8 months ago

I'm a big fan of Kbin but the project is a total mess right now and kbin.social is always down or only partially working. And there's next to no communication about what's happening.

I don't wanna do it but it might be time to pull up stakes and figure something else out.

stopthatgirl7, 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)

I really like kbin, but honestly, with as unstable as it is and how little information is coming out about what’s going on (seriously, there needs to at least be a Mastodon account we can check for updates or information when kbin social is down), I’m seriously considering making a lemmy account and moving over. It’s frustrating, because I do really prefer kbin, but this is beyond frustrating.

roguetrick, 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)

With how much you post, I'd imagine it'd be a problem for you. Posting something only for it to show up on their new feeds 3 hours later with zero votes will likely result in your stuff not being seen. Also makes it hard for @PugJesus modding.

stopthatgirl7, 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)

I don’t actually mind stuff not getting seen, it’s more not knowing if the site is going to error out when I try to look at it or check replies. Trying to access the site, or trying to upvote things, and getting error messages that are less than useful gets old fast.

Ragemidi, 8 months ago

maybe give mbin a shot before switching to lemmy

readbeanicecream, 8 months ago

@stopthatgirl7 Agreed. I have been using Beehaw more and more as a "test". But I am not sure where I will land in the end though.

Maestro, 8 months ago

If you haven't been following, there's a chance that Beehaw will defederate from everyone and go solo in the future. So, you may want to create a test account somewhere else.

readbeanicecream, 8 months ago

@Maestro Really good to know!! Thanks for the heads up.

@roguetrick @s0ckpuppet @stopthatgirl7

tiredofsametab, 8 months ago

Yeah, I switched over to an mbin instance; it was just too unstable and unpredictable for me on kbin.

s0ckpuppet, 8 months ago

Are the Mbin instances well federated so you're still getting about the same mix of content? They all seem pretty small in terms of subscriber count

FaceDeer, 8 months ago

I just set up an account at fedia.io, which is an mbin instance. When I ran the script posted over here to copy my subscriptions I had 111 subscriptions succeed and 49 fail. I've been checking the ones that failed and they've all been ones that haven't had anyone post in them for 5 months or more, so I'm guessing those are "dead" anyway. Seems not too bad, I'll see how it goes I guess.

I posted this same response from both of my accounts, I'm going to watch to see how well it federates back and forth.

s0ckpuppet, 8 months ago

Yep actually did the same myself with fedia and that script. Also had some fail which I think were likewise abandoned.

s0ckpuppet, 8 months ago

Yeah the comments are not federating across fedia/kbin. I'm only seeing your comments on this thread when you've posted them on the server I am currently viewing. Even 8 hours after you commented.

FaceDeer, 8 months ago

Weird. Your initial comment federated, since I was able to see it from both instances. All these responses to it did not, though.

s0ckpuppet, 8 months ago

Oof. This definitely needs to get sorted out asap. It would be the death of a federated platform centered around discussion. It's kinda one of the main tasks.

BarbecueCowboy, 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)

We haven't heard from our developer/lead maintainer/near entirety of the staff for about a month, so it's kind of hard to say. If they are working on something in the backend, it doesn't feel like they care enough to inform the community about it.

DarkGamer, 8 months ago (edited 7 months ago)

Ernest just replied, has been dealing with medical stuff but apparently a patch is in the works.

HarkMahlberg, 8 months ago

Much as I love the software, I made accounts in a few other Fedi platforms just to have some "outs." Don't put all your eggs in one basket and all.

readbeanicecream, 8 months ago

@HarkMahlberg I did the same thing since I am not sure of the longevity of kbin.

@roguetrick

readbeanicecream, 8 months ago

@HarkMahlberg Curious what other platforms, if you don't mind me asking?

@roguetrick

HarkMahlberg, 8 months ago

Really just the big ones. Lemmy, Mastodon, and Misskey. In my humble opinion, judging by the software alone, Misskey > Mastodon, kbin > Lemmy. Judging by the culture is a lot harder because it depends on the instance.

Aatube, 8 months ago

Why not mbin?

readbeanicecream, 8 months ago

@roguetrick I really like kbin and want it to succeed, but between the outages, spam, and errors it is really difficult to use.

I have accounts on beehaw, mastodon, and pixelfed. I am open to other suggestions, but once I find a "home" (on kbin or otherwise) I will delete the others.

FarraigePlaisteach, 8 months ago

I’ve been waiting for my account deletion request to be accepted for a while now. Maybe a few weeks.

I like Kbin in theory, but the spam is too distracting for me. I’m not in a position to volunteer either.

GeekFTW, 8 months ago

Hell I've had magazine deletion requests sitting around for months, since before ernest disappeared lol.

I run @SquaredCircle here and with all this never-ending breaking I've been spending the last 3 days testing out Federation between 4-5 other lemmy and mbin instances trying to find a place to move my account and the community as a whole.

s0ckpuppet, 8 months ago

Man if you look at this thread on Kbin and then again via another instance like Fedia, there are number of comments not federating across both instances. Kbin counts 24 comments and Fedia just 19. The missing comments on Fedia seem to be Kbin users. There's some comments in here that are upwards of 8 hours old that have not made it to both instances. This is really problematic.