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RoundSparrow, in positive experience with /kbin automatically bringing in older comments and posts to newly subscribed community

Although I've found one area that Lemmy to kbin doesn't seem to work when bringing in older content when a new vote is done.

Instance: StarTrek.website Lemmy. comment thread: https://startrek.website/comment/2051539

The copy on kbin.social does not seem to load the thread that starts with user @jet
https://kbin.social/m/quarks@startrek.website/t/404007/Favorite-sci-fi-film-thats-not-Star-Trek/oldest

Not sure what is going on under the hood where those won't copy into kbin.

static, (edited )
@static@kbin.social avatar

I think hackertalks.com is misconfigured, their posts do not federate to kbin. And I cannot add their magazines to kbin.social.

My best guess : https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/pull/114

Destragras, in Is there a way to report an individual user?
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Try using the contact link at the bottom of the kbin page. That'll send a message to the admin of the server you are on.

e569668, in Is there a way to have a feed of people you follow in kbin?
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You should be able to see microblog posts of accounts you follow at https://kbin.social/sub/microblog

fr0g,

Hmm, so far that is only showing the microblog posts that are tethered to the magazines I sub, but I also don't really follow many people yet so maybe they have just been drowned out.

e569668,
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Interesting, I've heard people say the same before. I do always sort by newest myself, but I sub to a bunch of magazines and also, say, three mastodon accounts, and that page is basically just solely the mastodon posts, very rarely do I see microblog posts in lemmy/kbin. I guess a filter of magazines vs users would be useful

Edit: Also, is the default view all time for you? I could see that causing a problem as well if it's hot / all time. I mainly have three bookmarks: /hot/12h, /sub/newest/24h, /sub/microblog/newest/1d. Getting all results for all of time by default seemed a bit weird to me, especially for microblog posts

fr0g,

The default view appears to be hot, but changing to new does not do much (is there an actual difference between sorting new/x and new/y? Specifying a time frame for new sorting seems kinda pointless).
I think the issue here is probably that I'm subbed to a magazine that has set up a fairly common hashtag (#opensource) for its microblog, so it naturally pulls in a lot.

e569668,
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Definitely, you're right that new timeframe doesn't matter, I meant to type hot all time xD I would expect that to potentially grab like whatever was boosted most in the past but then again the algorithm does tend to show newer things even under hot.

Yea the tag system might need a bit of work. It works great for some magazines, but for others not so much. For example m/help is supposed to be a magazine for kbin help but it pulls in everything under #help which can be anything in the fediverse. I did see someone suggest a way for a magazine to remove it defaulting to using the tag of its name, which doesn't seem like a bad idea to me

e569668,
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In hindsight I remember why I filter newest to a timespan, so wanted to make note of it. Right now:
https://fedia.io/m/kbinMeta@kbin.social/microblog/newest 500s for me but
https://fedia.io/m/kbinMeta@kbin.social/microblog/newest/1w is able to load. so cutting off some of the older posts helps me run into less 500 issues, and I generally don't care too much about old posts unless I'm searching for something. that might be a fedia specific thing though, not sure how 500s are on other instances

cacheson, in are these periodic infuxes of bots (first porn, and now pharmaceuticals) a kbin-specific problem, or a wider fediverse issue?
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It's partly specific to the kbin software, and partly specific to kbin.social. The biggest problem is that the software doesn't currently support having more than one administrator account per instance.

The flagship instance, kbin.social, is administered by ernest, who is also the lead developer of the project. Working on the software seems to keep him plenty busy, to the point where he's not able to keep up with administrator tasks.

Since kbin.social was (I assume) not used by very many people before the reddit migration, almost all the older magazines are owned by ernest, and have no other moderators set. There's also a large number of magazines that were created during the migration, but have since been abandoned by their owners. Reassigning these is a task that currently only ernest can do.

And of course as the most populated instance, kbin.social is a more desirable target for spammers, compared to the other kbin instances.

cacheson, in Migrating Kbin account to new instance
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Neither lemmy nor kbin have an account migration feature yet. AFAIK that's just a mastodon thing for now.

RoundSparrow, in Can't see content from other instances or create new users.

Hi. I know it's been a couple weeks. Did you get this sorted out?

simonwood, in The Unofficial Guide to /kbin is now available!
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This is great. I've not created a magazine but I've been curious about how Mods associate microblog posts with the magazine. I'm assuming that's through the "Tags" tab you describe on the moderation page.

There are a couple of things I'm still puzzled about, one is the distinction between upvote/boost (despite having been on here for a couple of months and read several explanations I'm still confused). The other, though it is a bit niche, is how to subscribe to an entire instance, which I know is possible (I think I even did it once) but is a very well hidden feature...

unofficial_kbin_guide,

This is great.

Thanks!

I've not created a magazine but I've been curious about how Mods associate microblog posts with the magazine. I'm assuming that's through the "Tags" tab you describe on the moderation page.

Yep. Any tags associated with a Magazine will pull in those posts that include those tags.

one is the distinction between upvote/boost

Upvotes (Favorites) are like reddit upvotes and boosts are like Twitter's retweets. So when you favorite something, you are saying, "Hey, Fellow Subscribers, this is interesting." When you boost something, it is like saying, "Hey Fediverse, check this out!"

how to subscribe to an entire instance

To subscribe to an instance:

  1. On the channel, click the instance name. (For threads, it is next to the title.) Alternatively, If you know the instance name, you can enter the url https://kbin.social/d/<<instance-name>>. For example, https://kbin.social/d/lemmy.world. Either of this methods will land you on the instance's domain page.
  2. On the domain page, click subscribe located in the side panel.

Thanks for these questions! I will add them to the Guide.

simonwood,
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Great explanation. I think the "Hey Fediverse" thing is what threw me. The up/down votes are familiar from Reddit. I was looking for how boosts would show within Kbin because they appear to be nothing more than an additional popularity metric (which seemed superfluous when you have upvotes) but I'm following myself from Mastodon(!) and I boosted your reply and I can see it from over there...

daredevil,
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Any tags associated with a Magazine will pull in those posts that include those tags.

Unfortunately, this has not been the case in my experience. I have a tag associated with a magazine I run. When I search #residentevil, I'm able to see several posts that don't get pulled to my magazine. Would you have any suggestions or tips?

e569668, in What's the recommended way to set up a development environment for KBin?
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I believe you should be able to run it all locally without a hostname. The guides for doing so are here, depending on how you want to:
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/wiki/Admin-Bare-Metal-Guide
https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/wiki/Admin-Docker-Guide

Edit: I should clarify, I meant to test things without activitypub. As the other poster mentioned you would need a valid hostname and valid certs for federation testing. Though it might be possible to run multiple local kbins that trust each other, not sure there is going to be much information on that

Someone just went through this themselves in the matrix kbin development channel so you could also potentially find help there if you're having issues. One thing that came up during that is https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/pulls/132 has a bunch of changes to those docs which might make it easier

HandsHurtLoL, in Can I create a magazine, then step down from a moderator position?

Fun fact on kbin.social: you can add mods without their consent or notification.

Not ethical to do so, but you can do what you've described in your question.

crossmr,

You can? We couldn't even get one to add even if we wanted to.

Pons_Aelius, in Can I create a magazine, then step down from a moderator position?

Sorry but that sounds a bit self serving.

"I want this place to exist but want someone else to provide it for me."

If no one else has created the community...maybe no one cares about it as much as you do (and you don't care enough to maintain it...).

So your chance of getting someone else to do the work for you is pretty slim.

LetterboxPancake, in Is it possible to collapse comments under Kbin posts? I can’t seem to do it, at least on mobile.

There’s KES github.com/aclist/kbin-kes/

But it depends on the browser you’re using.

FarraigePlaisteach,

I’m on iOS, unfortunately. But thanks, I’ll use that on desktop. It looks great!

LetterboxPancake,

You’re welcome. It works really nice on mobile as well, but Apple doesn’t like freedom of choice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

papalonian,

Hey uh, I'm pretty stupid, how do you even start to get this working on mobile? Is it a browser extension? Does it work on the default chrome app or do you need to use Firefox or something? Thanks for any answers, I've been into tech for years and somehow never heard of mobile browser add-ons haha

LetterboxPancake,

I use it with Firefox on Android with a userscript manager add-in called Tampermonkey. I don’t think Chrome has that to be honest, but I don’t use it so who knows.

You can install uBlock origin as well, that alone justifies installing Firefox for me 😅

papalonian,

Christ Almighty. I'm behind.

Thanks for giving me a rabbit hole to check out next time I've got the time.

ZILtoid1991, in /kbin Issues
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I have an issue with creating threads on federated magazines, it does not appear on the remote server, but does here.

HidingCat,

I have this issue, I realise. Is this a Kbin thing or a federation thing?

ZILtoid1991,
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I can safely comment on federated instances.

HidingCat,

Yea, comments aren't an issue, but my recent threads aren't going through, it seems. Which is weird, because I know I've posted weeks before and it was fine.

guyrocket, in How are you using or hoping to use kbin?

I was really getting sick of all the negativity on Reddit. It feels like about 80% of posts are shitting on someone for some reason that I don't really care about. Feels like a bunch of bitchy teenage girls all trying to rain on each others parade. I hope they all choke on their own social vomit.

So glad there seems to be NONE of that energy here. I hope it never arrives.

Other random thoughts/observations:
I appreciate that kbin/fediverse is more mature and academic.

I like Star Trek much more than Star Wars and see plenty of ST and no SW here.

While I appreciate that Reddit has more smaller and special interest communities because of it's size, I like that kbin is smaller. I think it will be a little sad to see it get big.

I plan to stay here for a while. I may host a mag or two eventually. I have ideas for improvements but as a non app user it seems pretty good so far.

Also, thanks to Ernest (sp?) and others who keep the lights on and motors running. You make it all possible.

grinning_moonlight,

Jesus Christ youre preaching to the choir here.

I had to leave it at around November 2022 cause I noticed the negativity was seirously harming my mental health. Im only a lurker in all social medias, so I was surprised something "finally" got to me. Since I had been "immune" to metaverse shit up to that point (not because im in any way better than anyone, I just dont have enough IRL friends to matter lol), I was surprised with how much reddit mined my sanity without me noticing.

And I fully intended to only keep Insta for family contact and tiktok for funny videos until GOOGLE FUCKING STOPS WORKING. So now I need another "search engine alternative" -_-

Well, disaster averted, let's hope we get at least a decade or so of usage on this one!

guyrocket,

I expect this one to last. No commercial interests. I guess growth could cause some problems but we will see.

Arotrios, in How's the progress on allowing users to adopt magazines with inactive mods?
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The only person who could really answer that is @ernest.

While we wait for him to respond on the topic (which may be awhile, as I'm sure he's got his hands full right now given the lemmy CSAM issues), I'd suggest that if you're looking to become mod of a dead magazine, give it life again. Post and fill it up and become a contributing member so that Ernest has something to go on when reassigning permissions. Otherwise he'll have no indication as to your commitment towards the community in question.

ernest,
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The mechanism itself is already ready, but there are so many other changes that the next server update won't be that easy. Additionally, I had to solve several private issues that effectively distracted me from work, sorry for that. At the beginning of September, everything will start to stabilize, and that's also when all the changes will be on kbin.social.

daredevil, in Lots of new spam
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Mods seem to be fairly inactive as well. Pretty unfortunate.

wagesj45,
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@ernest is the sole moderator for tons of the most popular/default magazines, and he spends most of his time working on the code for kbin, as far as I know.

daredevil,
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I'm aware. I don't think that reply is really necessary of a tag as I'm sure you and I both know he's busy. This problem is fairly common among kbin native magazines as well and not limited to the federated ones where Ernest is assigned as the owner and moderator. And yes, I'm also aware that it's something Ernest has talked about and plans to address. I'm not hating, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still an unfortunate situation.

ernest,
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This month, the largest update is planned. It's taking a long time because part of the team is returning from vacation, hence the delays. I hope that the update will resolve some of the most pressing issues. I'm also trying to remove spam systematically, but currently, the code is my priority. After implementing the new version, I will seriously address the community.

If there's anything urgent, currently contacting through the form is the quickest option. Cheers!

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