Hi there, I'm currently working on solving the problem. There will be significant changes this month. I know it's taking longer than I initially announced, but this will be a really solid release. The contributors have made an incredible work and I didn't want to miss anything. https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/381108/Lots-of-new-spam#entry-comment-2209332
A magazine is like a Reddit subreddit or Lemmy community.
A collection is a way to view multiple magazines in one feed. /c/Technology, for example, has a bunch of tech magazines. That way, you can view all the tech news in the fediverse without having to go to separate magazines.
@FfaerieOxide me too. I like it, I love the platform, I don't have an issue with the outages, and I like the way Ernest understands the fediverse.
If there's an outage fine, I just go to another fediverse account til kbin.social comes back. We all have other things in our life, sometimes projects have to take a back seat.
Also I have a lot of sympathy for Ernest wanting to retain control. It's his vision, let's let him do it his way.
Edit: the spam seems to be on mags that have Ernest as sole mod, so that might be an easy fix.
@FfaerieOxide yes! Well not officially, but after Arotrios had been gone a long time I applied to mod it, mainly as a sort of caretaker/safe pair of hands so that Arotrios will definitely get it back if he returns.
I don't know why/where Arotrios went. I kind of thought he'd be back by now.
A friend of mine tells me the instance mas.to (last night, 1/2/24) produced this error message for him:
Due to the technical issues they are having we are temporarily stopping delivery to kbin.social, as the failures and retries are impacting our site performance. We'll monitor the situation and unblock once they're back up and running again.
Figured you'd want to know, and thank you for the service you provide.
Edit: Appears to be unblocked now, but who knows if there are other instances that disconnected.
I'm the admin of mas.to. We didn't block in the moderation sense (suspend/limit), we just stopped delivery of content to kbin.social to prevent even more failures and retries piling up. It wasn't good for performance and probably not helping kbin.social either! I'll start delivery again on mas.to and my other instance!
Things have been pretty broken today and the site is running incredibly slow in general. I'm struggling to navigate posts, and things have been awfully quiet which makes me think something with federation has stopped working with Lemmy again (I can see my comment from earlier today on Mastodon but not Lemmy).
there is indeed something weird going on with lemmy. i noticed some feeds from lemm.ee are down, and the logs from my instance are filling up with bot rejections from lemmy.world, ie they are blocking bot traffic. i thought i read something about the new version of lemmy breaking some inter-lemmy fed traffic.
the error messages piling up are bad for my 'bin instance due to the retry methods used... extra processing, disk space starts to fill up.. resources just start piling up so i'm having to manually dump things regularly for the last 24-36 hours.
feasible kbin.social is also having some of the same problems i am
things have been awfully quiet which makes me think something with federation has stopped working with Lemmy again
Things haven't been in sync for a day or two at least. Looking at a post from both kbin and lemmy (specifically startrek.website), there are times when not all of the posts are there, or there are comments missing, or the votes are just stuck. And this morning all/hot was almost completely static for hours.
Since Kbin was still at what Ernest refers to as a proof of concept stage when the project reached peak popularity, and I think at the time (and probably still) it was really not particularly easy to run an instance of. That's probably part of the reason why so many of the early Kbin instances died off.
According to FediDB, the biggest instances other than kbin.social are Karab.in and Kbin.cafe. Karab.in is run by Ernest who also runs kbin.social - it's just the Polish instance. As developments are happening fast (see !kbinDevlog), it's to be expected that instances not run by Ernest lag a little bit behind in development.
It seems the administrator of kbin.cafe is @barista. I'm not sure how actively maintained it is.
Considering the fast pace of development, I think it makes sense for the time being to either use kbin.social or an mbin instance.
I want to say thanks for helping but I sort of feel you ignored the body of my post where I say I fled kbin.cafe for its inactive admin. Just checked now and they are still inactive. On the other hand I have also missed things while reading before. I guess I'll be staying where I am at until a new Kbin instance opens up ¬_¬ I feel very odd about using Mbin given some of the drama I have seen occur over the split (my admin on kbin.run did not get involved in any of the drama for what it is worth, though), and having gotten no say in the switch, but I also appreciate the decentralization of the Fediverse and refuse to get comfy in the flagship because then I'll never move and will be part of the problem keeping it centralized. Thanks anyways.
Oh shoot - I read your post, but then I just skimmed it again after checking fedidb and lost track of the context.
I think the point still hold that kbin is not at a point in its development where it makes too much sense for people to open independent kbin instances. By the way I understood it, mbin seeks to patch some of these problems, while the kbin development is focusing on improving the infrastructure on a deeper level. The drama is a bit silly, but I think forking is not always a bad thing and the differences in development between kbin (deep changes to the code base) and mbin (patches to make things work) are enough to justify parallell developments for the time being.
It's also worth noting that not a single new kbin instance has been created since September this year - I think for now you're unfortunately not likely to find an actively maintained instance beside the two run by Ernest.
I think ernest (kbin dev) has already stated that he will start working on Kbin's own mobile client now that artemis is dead, although not sure how soon that will come, hope is still there. But you are right, we need a better third-party ecosystem for mobile than ever.
Kbin core is first priority still last I saw. Which is more important IMO since then devs can use the API.
I always felt that Artemis was doomed from the start given that it was working around not having an API and seemed to be more focused on Kbin support over lemmy. Not that that’s a bad thing, Kbin is the only fedisite I use other than this one. But for example, I’m on Boost for Lemmy right now and the dev has mentioned Kbin support, but there’s been no mention of it until some comments about the API releasing, then again nothing.
Idk, it just seems like modding an early access game. You can make your own fork and spin it up and it can make great, incredible strides until the maintainer loses interest. That’s not to say that it shouldn’t be done or no one should ever make and maintain a fork, but I was just always confused as to why I was always seeing posts on Artemis alpha releases but the subject matter revolved around Kbin if the app also supported lemmy. Have compatibility be the focus until you don’t have to maintain the instance fork and the app development at the same time.
Moreover it’s just unfortunate that the instance is gone, hopefully there was an account merge available if anyone wanted that. I also certainly don’t have the full picture by any means, just the development posts and then the moderator goodbye post.
I’m personally happy with Kbin on Firefox until the account is supported in Boost. Yes, I have noticed a bug or two that has been mentioned but they are consistent in how they appear in my experience and I tend to not interact with how they often pop up. (I comment less on Kbin so scrolling up isn’t often an issue.) The bug I get most commonly is trying to view the bottom of the page with infinite scroll turned on. If it’s styling that’s an issue, Firefox Nightly or Fennec to play with CSS to your liking with something like Stylus.
I feel bad for the Artemis community, hopefully everyone finds something that works for them soon.
I had some minor turbulence in my private life from which I'm slowly emerging. I have partially stabilized my life situation in various aspects. I hope this will help me smoothly return to old habits, maintain consistency, and keep you updated on what specifically is happening in the project.
Ernest has previously said that this will be an upgrade to address several issues, such as those related to federation, spam and lack of moderation tools.
API stuff is listed in the 'merged pull requests' section (quite a few times), so unless I'm mis-interpreting what that means, I think the API should be going live as long as this downtime is for the updating of the instance!
This will help a LOT with people seeing /kbin as an option ... the mobile webpage is pretty fantastic, but I'm really looking forward to switching to the Artemis App as my daily driver.
I don't recall Ernest explicitly saying so, but the API is live on the artemis.camp instance, so hopefully it's in a state where it can be implemented as part of the core kbin code base. Perhaps the kbin codeberg can shed further light on this question.
API is part of the kbin code base (on latest develop branch). For example https://kbin.melroy.org also have API enabled. But kbin.social is still not upgraded until this day.
Kbin seems alive and well to me. If it wasn't for this post then it would never have occurred to me it might be 'dying'.
The growth in users has slowed but not reversed, and that's no bad thing. Initial growth was always going to come in spurts (driven more by whatever the latest drama is over at Reddit) and this lull is useful for getting our communities well-established and letting @ernest keep up the great work on the development side - all of which will ensure we're in a good place to ride the next wave of migration from Reddit when it happens!
I've been wondering the same thing. I really like kbin's interface, so I'm holding out that he comes back before I think about trying another instance.
Note: This is an irreverent reference to an event and I have no more reasons to think he has actually been shot than I do to believe she was in hospital having GRS.
You want me putting out in the universe the opposite? Them's dangerous vibes to be fucking around with.
Either Ernest is fine and you can take comfort in that knowledge or Ernest is dead and you can take comfort in the knowledge that you can do things like throw up websites and they can keep going months after you kick it.
I don't think if Ernest were dead you and I would be talking about it on kbin.social.
Seems kind of extreme to suggest such a drastic scenario. The possibilities are more numerous than either he’s 100% fine or dead (which, btw, you are the one “putting that into the universe). I wouldn't guess that’s what people were thinking… rather that perhaps he was in ill health, had lost interest or had other projects that were taking priority, perhaps due to practical financial considerations. Thankfully Ernest has posted an update answering this question, and he says while he has been hindered by some health circumstances recently, things are basically on track.
Well, for the span tags, I haven't seen other tags being an issue. If you see a code block where the same issue occurs with other tags, tell me so I can update it.
If there is another Reddit exodus, for example, or if we get a surge due to the Threads thing, I feel like many will just turn back due to the UI alone.
I don't know if ernest's views changed since the last exodus, but iirc people joining the platform wasn't really his intention, it just happened. Kbin hasn't even had a proper full release yet, it's still beta software, so I don't think people bouncing off is that big an issue yet.
With the abandonment of Artemis (formerly kmoon), kbin is now only really usable by the mobile site.
That's the case for now, but app development is still happening with other projects:
ernest has mentioned intentions to revive his kbin app project
I understood OP to be talking about mobile specifically. If there is a way to get the userstyles on mobile it's gotta be like 20 steps long. If someone could somehow wrap it all up in an easy package that would be one thing but idk if it's really a viable solution.
I understood OP to be talking about mobile specifically.
And that's why I said Firefox or Kiwi. Both of those are mobile browsers (the latter is chromium) that support extensions, so you can just install your favorite monkey and stylus and add userscripts/userstyles the exact same way as on desktop.
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