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e0qdk, in Are we cut off?
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This post made it over to reddthat, so your posts are federating out.

Checking over on my kbin account as well, I can see content in /newest from multiple sources. /sub returns 404 but I think that’s just a caching bug (adding ?p=1 to the end of the URL lets me workaround it).

e0qdk,
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It took about a minute for my comment from reddthat to show up here, but it looks like it made it through ok, so inbound comments are working. (Note: replying to myself from my kbin account)

e0qdk,
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And I got the response from kbin back on reddthat fine. Seems like communication is working.

HubertManne,
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thanks. I actually was seeing something similar at the start of the weekend but it sorta reveresed on me where sub works and newest gives me the 404. I have been looking through my sub and I am seeing lemmy mags. Thanks for the feedback.

Kierunkowy74, in KES 4.0.0 now adds full mbin compatibility
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this means KES has became MES too!

SharkAttak,
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KES-MES sounds kinda nice honestly.

minnieo, in KES 4.0.0 now adds full mbin compatibility
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💗💗💗

Gordon_Freeman, in If you're encountering the Subscribed 404 error, this is a good time to revisit Collections
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https://kbin.social/sub/newest

now shows the 404 and that's the url that I use by default, because I prefer newest to go first

livus,
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The ?p=1 workaround works with that too for me
https://kbin.social/sub/newest?p=1

Gordon_Freeman,
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cool, thanks

exscape, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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Honestly, no. Kbin has been barely usable for a long time and I'm starting to consider giving up.
I have a notification waiting for me, but I get a 404 on the page to check it out. /sub also didn't work yesterday. I spent a few minutes trying to edit a comment just an hour ago.

Nothing against Ernest, a page of this size is hard to manage alone or almost alone, but it's still a pain as a user.

FfaerieOxide,
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I have a notification waiting for me, but I get a 404 on the page to check it out.

Append ?p=1 at the end of the URL; that sometimes fixes it.

Next, relax.

ernest, in If you're encountering the Subscribed 404 error, this is a good time to revisit Collections
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I'm currently working on solving this problem.

livus,
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@ernest thank you! Please have a break so you can enjoy the weekend too!

fiat_lux, in If you're encountering the Subscribed 404 error, this is a good time to revisit Collections

If you're talking about the 404 when you try to go to kbin.social/sub , you can get around it with kbin.social/sub?p=1

livus,
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@fiat_lux thanks!!!

dryblastoise,
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works for login too. kbin.social/login?p=1

static, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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xz was successful because it was believable, but a malicious actor would more likely target libraries that are depended on by many, like xz.

wjrii, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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Yes, there is some similarity. You're not wrong.

However, it's much more likely to be due to the common experience of solo devs whose projects blow up than it is about bad actors on kbin.

If you're so inclined, you can always check the profiles of those who were pushing for it and particularly those who were volunteering; the boehs.org link should supply some helpful red flags to look for. Ernest would be wise to check IP activity and even ask for IRL credentials of those he would consider giving any real level of access to. Beyond that, it's firmly in the realm of "mildly interesting."

HarkMahlberg,
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It's not the boeh.org link, but here is a similar timeline of events: https://research.swtch.com/xz-timeline

the_crotch, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

Ernest Adds More Maintainers to Kbin is one of my favorite 80s comedies

cai, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

This is an absurd thread. By collecting together critical comments, and picking back up a loud fight that previously died down over a week ago, you are absolutely adding to any pressure towards our lad in charge.

Touch grass

FfaerieOxide,
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Touch grass

Suck ya mudda

HubertManne, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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its open source. it can and has been forked. he can do what he likes. The call for moderation made sense but code is different. Granted I think he should bring in help for himself but that is for him to decide.

survivalmachine, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

Erm, I thought kbin was open source? Can’t anybody fork it if they have a problem with it? This sounds like a whiny nothingburger.

FfaerieOxide,
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Erm, I thought kbin was open source? Can’t anybody fork it if they have a problem with it? This sounds like a whiny nothingburger.

They can. That's what mbin is.

That's part of why I don't get why people always pressure Ernest to add maintainers.

SharkAttak,
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I said that already, mbin might be good but I didn't like the advertisement.

FfaerieOxide,
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I said that already, mbin might be good but I didn't like the advertisement.

I'm not quite sure what your position is. I am by no means an mbin booster. In fact I find some of the people pushing mbin over kbin (in lieu addition too) jerks about it.

This whole thread has been about the similarities I noticed between comments people made about/to Ernest previously and the sort of comments we later learned led to the xz backdoor.

When I started to read breakdowns about the social engineering behind the xz backdoor I was like, "Waaaaitaminute, I've seen that sort of talk before." I found it notable to point out the similarity and maybe poke around at it.

People decided to use the thread (to my excessive chagrin) to talk shit about kbin and rehash the exact same pressures I was attempting to analyze.

SharkAttak,
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I am by no means an mbin booster.
I didn't mean to say you were, mine was just a side remark.

HarkMahlberg,
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When I started to read breakdowns about the social engineering behind the xz backdoor I was like, "Waaaaitaminute, I've seen that sort of talk before." I found it notable to point out the similarity and maybe poke around at it.

People decided to use the thread (to my excessive chagrin) to talk shit about kbin and rehash the exact same pressures I was attempting to analyze.

It's a shame, because I noticed similar patterns was looking forward to some good discussion about it here. Alas...

tiredofsametab, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?

I switched away because kbin seemed stuck and unresponsive to users and uncommunicative. Changes that were made seemed to be ones the Ernest wanted to and not addressing issues that people were feeling in some cases.

I am a software developer for a living and I can tell you that you can both have more people contributing and be secure. Most projects do not have bad actors who successfully poison things. When someone does, they get caught in the review process. If this is your concern, then prove that Ernest himself isn't a bad actor? I don't believe he is, but being one person in control would certainly make that easy.

celeste, in Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
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I typed a reply about how bad actors will use reasonable arguments to get their way, so we'd need genuine evidence

my comment didn't send properly tho and i got an error message, so if you see me commenting twice, sorry

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