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Damaskox, in Feature comparison - kbin vs Lemmy
@Damaskox@kbin.social avatar

I'm so happy that now I can edit the thread picture afterwards!

Needed to edit the picture many times! 😂

0xtero, in clients are the libre future; I hope kbin catches up

There are mobile apps in development and the API is coming along.
Kbin is still just a prototype though, but it's moving along nicely.

My other feeling is that kbin is setting up to be like iCloud whereas lemmy is more akin to sftp.

I've no idea what that analogy even is, but I think the differences are mostly technical (PHP vs Rust) and UX.
Both implement AP a bit differently, but at the end of the day, they're still AP aggregators.
And that's ignoring the political issues around lemmy's codebase ofc.

ContentConsumer9999,

Are you talking about the dev?

Auster, in /kbin Issues

Still can't block @hexbear.net instances

minnieo, in To those genuinely interested in moderating
@minnieo@kbin.social avatar

oo wow, neat

LanternEverywhere, in Is Blocking Ever Going To Block?

Aside from you getting notifications when they reply, i think all the rest is how blocking works on all internet forums (as opposed to social media sites). Like if you block someone on Reddit i believe they can still see your posts, you just don't see theirs.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

That is incredibly unuseful as a way to curate how and who all can interact with you.

The way blocking seems to currently work is to the benefit of trolls & sealions.

It would be well improved as a feature were blocked accounts unable to see or reply to posts or profiles of accounts that have them blocked.

LanternEverywhere,

I disagree. On a public forum no one should be able to control what content i see and what content i don't see. If you're going around saying bullshit in a public forum, i should be able to see that, and i should be able to post a public reply refuting your bullshit. Otherwise people could post bullshit and block everyone from replying who would show that their post is bullshit. You shouldn't get to block people from rebutting your claims.

EDIT:

Though i could see the usefulness of an automatic tag on their comment saying "the OP has blocked this user, so OP doesn't see this post."

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I disagree in turn with you.

If someone is harassing me and not engaging in good faith, I should be able to disengage from them and hide myself from their view.

If I was talking to someone in a park and a third person joined the conversation that's fine. If that person starts being an annoying asshole, I should be able to walk away from the harassment while still maintaining my conversation. Accepting harassment is not a requirement to talk to people, and I should not have to accept harassment from whomever wants to fuck with me for the privilege of talking to people who aren't harassing me.

I also don't consider a site where people shitpost memes to be needing the same "public forum" protections of say a town hall meeting or a politician's official communications.

"Open air free-for-alls" as I am reading you seem to prefer tend also to drive out people with marginalized identities as they leave them open to harassment people from dominate groups members do not get subjected to for just existing.

Further, there is no moral or technical reason a person should not be able to send out a message to "Everyone in the world except for Tom when he is logged in—because fuck that guy."

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

If that person starts being an annoying asshole, I should be able to walk away from the harassment while still maintaining my conversation

Except for the notification part, that is how blocking works currently.

If someone is harassing you, just block that person, you won't see any content created by that person, while you can maintain communication with the rest

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

They shouldn't be able to eavesdrop on my conversation, nor take part in it.

I should be able to speak to Everybody But Tom if I so wish, and Tom should not be able to butt into the conversation.

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

So you want to forbid people to speak to other people because you say so? That's really selfish, to say the least

If you want to maintain private conversations, use private messages. The rest is public

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Yes, I want to forbid people to speak to me or take part in my conversations because I say so.

I, selfishly, do not wish to be harassed or have my conversations derailed by bad actors.

If people are free to make their own threads and own claims, why do they need "the right" to butt into and derail mine?

If you want to maintain private conversations, use private messages. The rest is public

It doesn't have to be. There is no reason I should not be able to speak to "everyone accept for people I designate" (Tom).

Gordon_Freeman,
@Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social avatar

Yes, I want to forbid people to speak to me

Well, block that people. Currently blocking is working as intended (except for the already mentioned notifications that is either a bug or an overlook). You block them and they can speak to you. The End

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

If they can still see what I post, then blocking is not working as optimally as it could.

(And since their replies—that they should not be able to make—still show up in my notifications, then it isn't even working the way you say it does.)

oldGregg,

Not true. You could respond to someone on reddit and they could not respond back. People abused this to get the last word in arguments

DessertStorms, in /kbin Issues
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

Just browsing new and came across the MAP ("minor and youth attracted people") magazine from rqd2.net, most of the active people there are using the same instance. I will be blocking the instance as best I know how, but I think defederating might be the safest bet.

ernest,
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

Thanks for pointing it out.

DessertStorms,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

No worries, thank you for taking care of it so quickly!

ernest, in Blocked accounts still showing in random posts/threads sections
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

I'll take care of it this week.

MoogleMaestro, in To those genuinely interested in moderating

As an added note to the development team @ernest and others:

This has worked pretty well and I'm now trying to clean up the areas I have ownership of now. However, I have a few notes:

  1. I would like it if, in the case of a community ownership transfer happens, that the original "founder" account was noted on the right hand side with the panel details. It would be nice to know this as a moderator or owner of a magazine as, if the user ever comes back, they could reapply for moderation access and I could approve knowing that the person was actually the original founder. Right now, it would be hard to verify that the person submitting a mod request is actually the person who originally founded the community for example.
  2. It would be nice if moderators had the ability to add badges to existing posts to help clean up communities that might have had a lot of content but not much in terms of badge management.
  3. When ownership transfers, it would be nice to get a notification. When transfer of /m/manga and /m/bitwig came to me, for example, I didn't notice until a few days after since I didn't receive a notification.

Should these types of issues be posted as a "bug"? Or is it better to just leave feedback here?

Skavau, in Can't view the threads page of newcommunities@lemmy.world

Yeah I'm tempted to make a version of "newcommunities" for Kbin since MagHub just doesn't roll off the tongue (and is abandoned, although I doubt that is why it's so weak)

ernest, in Can't view the threads page of newcommunities@lemmy.world
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

I will check it this evening, thanks.

originalucifer, in Can I post a new thread from kbin to a lemmy community?
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

try this..
click 'magazines' at the top
then type in the name of the remote community you want, like 'funny'.. it should then show you all those remote communities and the local one.... click the community you want to post in
then you should see a banner at the top reminding you youre looking at a local version of a remote community, click the '+' sign and select the post type... this will initiate a new thread.

Maestro,
@Maestro@kbin.social avatar

Thank you, that worked!

ghostatnoon, in Missing search results when looking for federated communities (at Lemmy)
@ghostatnoon@kbin.social avatar

It's usually easier to search via external sites (https://lemmyverse.net/ and https://browse.feddit.de/ are the ones I've been using). You'll still have to manually copy over the magazine name in order to subscribe for it, but you'll get a wider variety of results without having to go to each instance individually.

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,

Thanks for the tip, that's a good workaround

Auster, in /kbin Issues

@crystals.rest domains also have issues subscribing, redirecting to a 50x error page despite successfully being subscribed to.

Auster,

Also @mcr.town

Auster,

Also @compuverse.uk

Auster,

Also @lemmy.dbzer0.com

Auster,

Also @sopuli.xyz

Auster,

Also @u.fail

Auster,

Also @lemmy.ca

Auster, (edited )

Also @exploding

Auster,

Also @dataterm.digital

Auster,

@dataterm.digital still has issues

Auster,

Also @lemmy.ml

Auster,
Auster,

Also @pawb.social

Auster,

Also @forum.fail

Auster,

Also @programming.dev

Auster,

Also @fedi196.gay

Auster,

Also @exploding

Auster,

Also @chirp.social

Auster,

Also @literature.cafe

Auster,

Also @lemmy.world

tacosanonymous, in Can't block Hexbear communities - with workaround

I’ve learned that if you interact with them, they’ll block you.

Raffster,

Yo'll still see their horrid propaganda though...

Raffster,

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  • tacosanonymous,

    Damn…

    amio,

    Yeah, for being a bunch of "totally not trolls lol" they're remarkably thin-skinned.

    Pons_Aelius,

    That is completely normal. The one thing trolls hate is to be the target of the behaviours they love to inflict on others.

    DessertStorms, in /kbin Issues
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    Just a heads up - since the recent updates, on desktop, clicking on link preview in a comment will make the link and the little icon disappear but no preview loads: https://files.catbox.moe/o41qu7.jpg
    Clicking the link itself opens it in a new tab as normal.

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