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jerry, in Fedia update
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The good news is that I think I figured out where the problematic messages are coming from. Now I have to figure out what it is about them.

Nougat,

Seems to be roughly 1.7 million times better today.

jerry,
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it took 3 days to process the backlog, but it's caught up now and I've not seen any re-occurrence of the prior problem.

jerry, in How can mbin/kbin users subscribe or even just reach a lemmy community?
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it may be related to the ongoing federation problems. https://fedia.io/m/french@sopuli.xyz is working now for me. there are no posts in it yet on our instance because no one had subscribed to it until now.

jerry,
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Also, I checked the source and there have been no new posts since. I'll keep an eye on it.

ciferecaNinjo,

Thanks for the investigation and tips. I was able to see it by querying the substring you mentioned.

I didn’t even think this thread herein posted. Got the 500 error a couple times when posting here and in mdev, and gave up. I forgot that error 500 often happens /after/ the task executes, hence some dupe threads.

Hypx, in How can mbin/kbin users subscribe or even just reach a lemmy community?
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I've noticed that a large number of communities on Lemmy.world aren't visible here. You only get a 404. I've noticed this when looking at US state communities:

https://fedia.io/m/washington@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/oregon@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/illinois@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/georgia@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/indiana@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/florida@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/wisconsin@lemmy.world

And I'm sure there are others. What's weird is that some are visible, but others are not. There doesn't seem to be any pattern that I can see.

jerry,
@jerry@fedia.io avatar

I’ll take a look

Hypx,
@Hypx@fedia.io avatar

Thanks.

jerry,
@jerry@fedia.io avatar

Ok. I don’t know why this works, but if you search for the magazine (ie search for oregon@lemmy.world) it’ll return a result. After that, the links you posted starts working.

Hypx,
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Yes, it's coming up now, but no content is being federated. So it is unfortunately showing up as an empty sub.

eruraindil, (edited )
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Remote magazines only get new posts from the point in time when they are created locally. It won't pull old posts off the originating server.

Update:
Maybe not. I thought that's how it works but I see content in the Florida one. Curious. I don't know then. ¯*(ツ)*/¯

Update 2: comment from e-five could explain how old posts show up on new communities.

Hypx,
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It should receive data from any activity at the other community. The problem seems to be Fedia not receiving data from certain communities.

It's not just the state communities. There's a lot of communities that are missing posts. Even ones that happened recently. For instance: https://fedia.io/m/netsec@lemmy.world

And I've noticed some servers aren't federating anything, like lemy.nl: https://fedia.io/m/nieuws@lemy.nl

jerry,
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I am not sure what is going on with some of the lemmy.world communities - some do seem to be having issues like netsec, while others like https://fedia.io/m/news@lemmy.world are humming along very well. I'll keep poking at it.

e-five,

I mentioned in the adjacent post but if you do see magazines acting oddly, it could be there are no local subscribers. Hopefully we get a UI fix in soon with the PR I had mentioned, because it's a bit of a bad user experience now. (I noticed world from lemmy world on debounced's instance was getting no posts, or rarely a post with no likes, and subscribed, and suddenly everything came in fine.) So probably a good idea for people, if you want to see posts from somewhere, make sure to subscribe.

(This was technically always true, but a while back admins were auto subscribed so a magazine would always have 1 subscriber. That changed, and that change was even backported to kbin by ernest, so it should be like that back in kbin too for new magazines.)

e-five,

Make sure to subscribe to communities you want. It's not just searching for it and loading it, but if there are no local subscribers it won't get updates (and the last subscriber unsubbing would put it in this situation).

This became a bit harder to tell ever since mbin switched to showing real subscriber numbers rather than local like kbin has. There is an active PR to try to address this issue so users are able to tell when data isn't coming in

Hypx,
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Thanks. That seems to resolve the issue. Though, for a lot of smaller communities, no one is going to subscribe to them here, effectively making them invisible here.

e-five,

I don't completely disagree, hopefully the PR I linked, once complete, will make it a lot more obvious to people when this scenario occurs. I think from an instance owner perspective, they wouldn't want to constantly be paying the overhead on communities no one has an actual interest in viewing (edit: this isn't worded well, so forgive me, obviously people may want to view it but not have it show up in their sub feed, so perhaps another action item is a way to split subscription lists, which I think was already requested), as it has a very real financial cost to them. But I will keep this in mind, I meant to investigate how lemmy works (whether they also require a subscriber, I mean they do because this is how AP works but they might make a fake user or something, I never had a chance to look, but I'd be curious what tools they have to stop incoming messaging for when an instance owner wants to save bandwidth)

jerry,
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The Florida one does because I followed it and there has been posts since then

jerry,
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actually, I'm wrong - the posts that appeared after I followed it are weeks old. I can't explain that.

e-five,

It looks like someone from the remote liked it recently, which, and I'm channeling Benti here because I'm not as good at the AP side of things, announced to subscribers which brought it in here. At least that's my best guess

AchtungDrempels, (edited )

I can't seem to get a result for bicycle_touring@lemmy.world

I searched for it in magazines. Do i need to search for it elsewhere?

edit: Oh yeah, i guess i needed to search from just the main search. Found it.

Hypx, in Fedia update
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Some things seem to be fixed. But I'm stilling noticing that many communities are not reachable. I mentioned about them here: https://fedia.io/m/fedia/t/590616/-/comment/3994532

eruraindil, in Request for errors on fedia.io
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I am seeing a 500 error when trying to login using Interstellar a new kbin/mbin app in development.

Trying to browse fedia without logging in on the app throws a generic something went wrong error.

They confirmed recently in their GitHub that they do support mbin and kbin.melroy.org works. login and in guest mode.

I can throw up a screenshot as soon as I figure out how to add an image.

brossman, in Fedia.io Downtime Saturday, March 9
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nerd

just kidding jerry we love you and appreciate everything you do <3

jerry,
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nerd

Guilty as charged

FaizalR, in Fedia.io Downtime Saturday, March 9
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Good luck with that.

jerry, in Fedia maintenance is complete
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As a bonus, the most excellent mbin folk pointed out a problem in the database and that has additionally helped dramatically reduce the load

LostXOR, in Fedia maintenance is complete

Awesome, things do seem to be a bit snappier now (or maybe I'm just imagining things). That's quite expensive, I'll see if I can chip in.

MHLoppy, in Fedia maintenance is complete
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If you're financially well-off you can help cover this madman's costs via:

Also available, but often higher fees than above:

  • Patreon
  • PayPal: Jerry@infosec.exchange
kbal, in Request for errors on fedia.io
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In case it's not obvious that it's gone wrong just now, it's started giving me 500 and 502 errors. ... and now it's stopped.

jerry,
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yes, there was a problem with rabbitmq that I found/resolved.

kbal, in What are my options when a community/ magazine doesn’t exist on fedia.io?
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To get to another instance there is the "Magazines" link at the top of the page, or just go directly to the one you want such as https://fedia.io/m/anarchychess@sopuli.xyz

To create a new one is under that '+' icon at the top of the page. Looks easy but I haven't tried it yet.

i_am_not_a_robot,
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You can also hit search and type it in in the format @imaginaryfairies

Hypx,
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Also, someone has to subscribe to the community, or else Fedia won't load data from another instance.

FarraigePlaisteach,

Oh, so I can get an existing community on another server to show up here by subscribing? That sounds ideal as long as the other server has decent uptime.

FarraigePlaisteach,

Searching macos or @macos doesn’t find that community on any instance unless I use the magazine search, which is under the hamburger menu.

i_am_not_a_robot,
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I think if you're searching you need to put the domain in too.

Magazine search is a bit different but will only show the communities already known to the server, the global search will find remote ones too.

FarraigePlaisteach,
kbal,
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That appears to be a bug. I've seen similar problems before but never on an active kbin community. Maybe @melroy has some idea?

melroy,
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Searching on the handler should indeed find & create the user if not present:, eg. https://fedia.io/search?q=%40Gaeilge%40kbin.social However, fedia.io still seems to return "Empty". I tried to do the same on my instance and that worked.

I'm not sure what goes wrong, assuming kbin.social didn't block fedia, then I suspect some kind of issue at fedia.io. I believe we need to debug this issue on the server-side. Hopefully @jerry can have a look at his logs when trying to execute the search query above and maybe find the root-cause that way.

kbal,
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The search worked for me just now.

jerry,
@jerry@fedia.io avatar

it is working for me as well. I'll check to see if there was anything in the error logs.

jerry,
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ok - just looked through logs and I am not seeing anything that looks related to this issue. There are a good number of error 500's coming from kbin.social, but none appear to be around the time of these posts, nor associated with the referenced magazine.

melroy,
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He user only now seems to exists (created 1 day ago it says): https://fedia.io/m/Gaeilge@kbin.social. So yes it seems to work fine!

@FarraigePlaisteach @kbal be sure you are logged-in before doing this search.

FarraigePlaisteach,

I thought I was logged in but I can’t remember now. I don’t see a 404 now though, just “empty”. There are posts in that magazine though, on its instance.

xep, in Is anyone else finding it impossible to block anything from hexbear.net?

Yeah, same with Kbin. It's been an issue for a while now.

DarkThoughts,

Pretty much since forever.

e-five, in Is anyone else finding it impossible to block anything from hexbear.net?

Can you describe the steps you're going through to attempt to block it and what you observe? For instance, if I go to https://fedia.io/d/hexbear.net and click block on the side, it instantly appears to work without any errors. I tried from other mbin instances as well and didn't see any errors.

Hypx,
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You can’t block any user or community. It just gives you a 500 error.

e-five,

Thanks, was able to get the logs for the error happening with some help. Seems to be related to their "allowlist" changes to lemmy (at least that's the error being thrown back). I'll try to track down in the code, as I believe I mentioned before I believe it sends a request to unfollow to remotes even when you aren't following, and make a patch soon(tm). (For jerry, this is an mbin bug, so feel free to move this to the mdev mag if you want or it can hang out here but isn't specific to your instance)

Gamers_Mate,

If you use ublock origin adding the following to the filter list should help.
fedia.io##article.entry:has(aside.meta > a.magazine-inline[href$="@hexbear.netl"])

e-five,

As an update, this should be fixed as of this PR
I was able to verify that I couldn't block before, and could after the change
So it should get into the next tagged release version (which will likely be 1.5.0) and eventually be working on this instance

DarkThoughts,

Blocking instances on kbin / mbin does not work though. You will still see the communities threads & users (and getting to that page in the first place is a hassle too since there's no link to it).

e-five, in What happened to embedded videos?

I think at least the first part of this is https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/pull/561

It was fixed a couple weeks ago but there hasn't been a tagged release in a while.

I'm not sure what the release plan is for 1.5.0, currently there's some very heavy migrations that require special upgrade instructions so I'd like to get a tagged release sooner rather than later to avoid instance admins running into issues, but I think there's still a lot of work in flight

DarkThoughts,

I just noticed that the overlap issue also happens with pictures apparently, or at least those thumbnail screenshot from videos. Unless you hover over the image (or redgif video), then it hovers into the foreground.

e-five,

Oh do you use compact mode? If so, sadly another thing that was fixed a while back that hopefully will be fixed for you next release https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/pull/544

DarkThoughts,

Yes. The default view just adds a lot of wasted empty space, useless icons and even more useless cut-off text previews which I don't see the point of.

Doesn't quite look like the same issue, but I trust your word that it got fixed and hope for the next release then.

e-five,

The post you showed in the screenshot does look fine to me both in classic and compact view on an instance with latest.

But I'd agree not all of your concerns have been addressed. I don't believe redgifs work (well), so will try to look into that if possible, but might be out of my depth.

The playback continuing is interesting. I had made a change long ago to not download every time it was expanded / collapsed as before it would make a request every single time, instead I changed it to just hide and show it after the first load, so that sounds like a side effect of that. Perhaps there's some way for me to also indicate to pause media, I will check

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