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e-five, in Fedia stablility update

Just wanted to mention that some of the issues may likely have been due to issues with Mbin rather than on fedia's side, and we put together an emergency hotfix last night / this morning. The issues had taken out another Mbin instance, so hopefully now that this instance has grabbed those fixes, there will be slightly less queue/db issues (I'd like to say all solved forever but I've learned my lessons).

18+ rosaroja10, in Fedia maintenance is complete
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@jerry hello greetings I have a question fedia.io is the official instance of the mbin project?

jerry,
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Hello. It is not. I think it is the largest. I am not sure there is an official instance for mbin the way there is for kbin or mastodon, etc

rosaroja10,
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@jerry are you one of the developers of the mbin project?

jerry,
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I am not - I have tried to help, and have been helped by the developers though

Hypx, in Opening thread leads to 500 error
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Same here. For multiple posts, if I click on them I only get an error page that says "504 Gateway Time-out." It seems to happen mainly to recent posts.

Hypx, in How can mbin/kbin users subscribe or even just reach a lemmy community?
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I've noticed that a large number of communities on Lemmy.world aren't visible here. You only get a 404. I've noticed this when looking at US state communities:

https://fedia.io/m/washington@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/oregon@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/illinois@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/georgia@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/indiana@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/florida@lemmy.world
https://fedia.io/m/wisconsin@lemmy.world

And I'm sure there are others. What's weird is that some are visible, but others are not. There doesn't seem to be any pattern that I can see.

jerry,
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I’ll take a look

Hypx,
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Thanks.

jerry,
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Ok. I don’t know why this works, but if you search for the magazine (ie search for oregon@lemmy.world) it’ll return a result. After that, the links you posted starts working.

Hypx,
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Yes, it's coming up now, but no content is being federated. So it is unfortunately showing up as an empty sub.

eruraindil, (edited )
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Remote magazines only get new posts from the point in time when they are created locally. It won't pull old posts off the originating server.

Update:
Maybe not. I thought that's how it works but I see content in the Florida one. Curious. I don't know then. ¯*(ツ)*/¯

Update 2: comment from e-five could explain how old posts show up on new communities.

Hypx,
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It should receive data from any activity at the other community. The problem seems to be Fedia not receiving data from certain communities.

It's not just the state communities. There's a lot of communities that are missing posts. Even ones that happened recently. For instance: https://fedia.io/m/netsec@lemmy.world

And I've noticed some servers aren't federating anything, like lemy.nl: https://fedia.io/m/nieuws@lemy.nl

jerry,
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I am not sure what is going on with some of the lemmy.world communities - some do seem to be having issues like netsec, while others like https://fedia.io/m/news@lemmy.world are humming along very well. I'll keep poking at it.

e-five,

I mentioned in the adjacent post but if you do see magazines acting oddly, it could be there are no local subscribers. Hopefully we get a UI fix in soon with the PR I had mentioned, because it's a bit of a bad user experience now. (I noticed world from lemmy world on debounced's instance was getting no posts, or rarely a post with no likes, and subscribed, and suddenly everything came in fine.) So probably a good idea for people, if you want to see posts from somewhere, make sure to subscribe.

(This was technically always true, but a while back admins were auto subscribed so a magazine would always have 1 subscriber. That changed, and that change was even backported to kbin by ernest, so it should be like that back in kbin too for new magazines.)

e-five,

Make sure to subscribe to communities you want. It's not just searching for it and loading it, but if there are no local subscribers it won't get updates (and the last subscriber unsubbing would put it in this situation).

This became a bit harder to tell ever since mbin switched to showing real subscriber numbers rather than local like kbin has. There is an active PR to try to address this issue so users are able to tell when data isn't coming in

Hypx,
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Thanks. That seems to resolve the issue. Though, for a lot of smaller communities, no one is going to subscribe to them here, effectively making them invisible here.

e-five,

I don't completely disagree, hopefully the PR I linked, once complete, will make it a lot more obvious to people when this scenario occurs. I think from an instance owner perspective, they wouldn't want to constantly be paying the overhead on communities no one has an actual interest in viewing (edit: this isn't worded well, so forgive me, obviously people may want to view it but not have it show up in their sub feed, so perhaps another action item is a way to split subscription lists, which I think was already requested), as it has a very real financial cost to them. But I will keep this in mind, I meant to investigate how lemmy works (whether they also require a subscriber, I mean they do because this is how AP works but they might make a fake user or something, I never had a chance to look, but I'd be curious what tools they have to stop incoming messaging for when an instance owner wants to save bandwidth)

jerry,
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The Florida one does because I followed it and there has been posts since then

jerry,
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actually, I'm wrong - the posts that appeared after I followed it are weeks old. I can't explain that.

e-five,

It looks like someone from the remote liked it recently, which, and I'm channeling Benti here because I'm not as good at the AP side of things, announced to subscribers which brought it in here. At least that's my best guess

AchtungDrempels, (edited )

I can't seem to get a result for bicycle_touring@lemmy.world

I searched for it in magazines. Do i need to search for it elsewhere?

edit: Oh yeah, i guess i needed to search from just the main search. Found it.

neilcar, in Apologies for the recent downtime

The software now seems stable so the curse of Fedia had to strike at the hardware! Thanks, @jerry, we really appreciate you.

andyburke, in Apologies for the recent downtime
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No worries, hope things are working now and you can get a bit of rest with what's left of the weekend!

magnetosphere, in Apologies for the recent downtime
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Thanks for the explanation of what’s been going on.

MrZee, in General question: is there a community to ask for communities?

Searching 411 in communities, it looks like this is the only active one:

Lemmy411@lemmy.ca

i_am_not_a_robot, in General question: is there a community to ask for communities?
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blued_gear,
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Thank you.

jerry, in Is there a solution for spam from federated communities?
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Report at least one of the posts from any spam account you see. I try to suspend and delete them as I see them, but alas I am not omniscient and don’t know where all the spam accounts are

Hypx,
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Thanks. I will report more spam accounts if I run into them.

jerry,
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thanks. I think I've gotten rid of all the spam accounts, posts, and replies from the recent issue, but there may be more I am not finding.

quinkin, in Is there a solution for spam from federated communities?

Rate limit signups and posting.

FaizalR, in Is there a solution for spam from federated communities?
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Moderating.

skullgiver, in Is there a solution for spam from federated communities?
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Kbin and Lemmy don't seem to federate admin activity. I get a lot of spam from the various Kbin instances whereas Lemmy spam seems to be dealt with already.

I think fixing this requires dev work on both the Lemmy side and the Kbin side.

HubertManne, in Is there a solution for spam from federated communities?
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I wonder if there is a way for federation to not bring over comments from federated accounts under a certain age to give the admins a chance to remove them?

willya, in Is there a solution for spam from federated communities?
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Yeah your admins banning/purging.

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