peter_sc,
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Anyone over the age of 30 who has spend any time in tech-adjacent spaces still cheering for #BigTech "joining" the #Fediverse is fucking deluding themselves. We've been through so many cycles of this shit over the past twenty years, how some people can still trust #facebook to do anything remotely ethical is beyond me.

They're not here to join, they're here to destroy. This is just the most cost-effective, PR-friendly way of doing it.

andrewfelix,
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@peter_sc Linux and open web tech is thriving despite MSofts best attempts to destroy it. The fedi will be fine.

dalias,
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@peter_sc I don't think they're here "to destroy", but they're here to remain relevant, and their entanglement with hostile governments and political parties with hate based platforms means they're bringing with them extremely bad moderation policies: particularly, welcoming hate movements as long as they're aligned with a major political party, and shunning sex workers, queer creators, reproductive health educators, etc.

peter_sc,
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@dalias that’s why I called out the past twenty years: I remember RSS. I remember XMPP. Yes, both standards still exist, but they are diminished, because they’ve literally run the same playbook before (also google, obvs). It’s just about making sure the “average” user doesn’t even get the idea in their head that anything outside corporate control exists. They will sever the connection the moment enough people default to just signing up for Threads to post/read here.

Natanox,
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@peter_sc This. I just wish the big guys on the fedi wouldn't be so keen to put growth above anything… Eugen has proven once more he doesn't have the users' safety at heart. But I expected way better from Dan (Pixelfed creator). The fact he now also federates to Threads with its main instances is just… sad.

astatide,
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@Natanox @veirling @peter_sc awww. Didn’t know about pixelfed. Time to get to blocking -_-

like… I kind of felt like pixelfed was supposed to be an alternative to Instagram. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to just federate with Insta’s owner but hey.

Natanox,
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@astatide @veirling @peter_sc Yeah, @dansup really messed that one up. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to take any criticism too seriously… https://mastodon.social/@dansup/111578061622391270

I understand it's hard to emotionally deal with a barrage of criticism for administrative decisions, but this is just a display of childishness I did not expect from him. Especially when he announced that he changed his mind after initially signing #FediPact he had to expect reactions from many disheartened users.

astatide,
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@Natanox @veirling @peter_sc @dansup I look forward to the shocking articles coming out in 3 to 5 years about how Meta mis-used all the data it's harvested from the fediverse.

astatide,
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@Natanox @veirling @peter_sc @dansup Zuck, at a conference table: "can we do a genocide with activitypub? Is that a thing we can do? Scrap the legs project, do a deep dive."

Natanox,
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@astatide @veirling @peter_sc @dansup "Not even Eugen could've seen this coming! We were ALL blind! We ALL did this mistake together! But Meta was so nice and friendly in their checks notes talk with instance admins that was done in secrecy under NDA!"

astatide,
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@Natanox @veirling @peter_sc @dansup Eugen going full on Meta apologist was no surprise after hearing stories about how instead of merging PRs from women and minorities, he'd instead rewrite them himself and merge his own versions so he's pretty obviously a massive fuck.wad but I really did sort of expect the guy who made "not Instagram!" to do a little better. Well, what're you gonna do. It's not like Meta has constantly and repeatedly acted predictably like a sociopath or anything.

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