PenguinJuice,

Rich people profit off of the pain and sorrow from society being divided over these issues. Please let's everyone focus on the rich folks hoarding and unfair share of money and working us to the bone. They like when we argue over shit like this. Divided people aren't aware of how much they're getting fucked up by the select few.

siuvhne,
@siuvhne@kbin.social avatar

I find this line of thinking to be flawed. If race can be excluded as a factor for consideration, how is the most qualified people getting ahead a bad thing? I couldn't get into Harvard even if I had good blackmail on the Dean. Maybe I don't understand the argument but that's my take.

Flaky_Fish69,
@Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social avatar

The people getting into Harvard, many of them get in because of social connection’s rather than merit. The social connections of their parents. It’s also super common to just buy their way in.

The students getting in on merit are the ones they let in because they have a reputation to maintain and can’t have everyone being dumb. That would look bad.

Further, even if that weren’t true, the reason “the most qualified” seem to be rich white kids from rich white families is simply because they can afford much better educations. So, if you want to promote diversity it can’t just be about academic qualifications because you have people who’ve always been in power buying academic quals for the kids- so they always will be in power.

Affirmative action isn’t about taking away from one group and giving it to another, it’s about giving back to a group that historically has been taken from- its about righting a past wrong- you can’t do that solely on merit, when the system was designed to perpetuate a certain kind of status quo

PenguinJuice,

We don't need to right past wrongs. Just continue to be good people and give everyone and equal opportunity. That's what I do every day. Just be a good person to everyone you see, be willing to share knowledge to those who ask and elevate those around you. I don't specifically treat anyone differently than others based on "past wrongs".

Im sorry, but that's just a flawed way of thinking and perpetuates a divide.

norapink,
@norapink@kbin.social avatar

Wait why shouldn't we try to right past wrongs when those past wrongs continue to wrong people?

iAmTheTot,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

Those "past wrongs" are still impacting people alive today. When one racer has been given a two hundred year head start, it's easy to look at the race when everyone's running and think it is fair.

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