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Anticorp, in Announcement to non-StarTrek.website users: on July 10th, c/Quarks will change to "locals only". Thanks to the Lemmy devs for this new feature!

Bastardos, all!

Admin, in Announcement to non-StarTrek.website users: on July 10th, c/Quarks will change to "locals only". Thanks to the Lemmy devs for this new feature!
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@ptz@dubvee.org Tagging you here because you’re basically the only other person who contributes to this community.

njaard, in Announcement to non-StarTrek.website users: on July 10th, c/Quarks will change to "locals only". Thanks to the Lemmy devs for this new feature!

This is dumb and makes no sense, even for the intended purposes.

millie, in Announcement to non-StarTrek.website users: on July 10th, c/Quarks will change to "locals only". Thanks to the Lemmy devs for this new feature!

Goofy decision. I have an account here, but I rarely use it because of the ratio of spam to genuine posts on the instance.

You could always just defederate from those toxic instances? It seems like this isn’t a popular decision with the community. Might be worth rethinking it.

ValueSubtracted,
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If you don’t like the content hosted on this instance, why do you have an opinion on this at all?

Admin, (edited )
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I think she’s saying she’s upset we don’t remove enough content from other communities (federated with us but not originating) on this instance. Which is correct, the admins here generally leave content on other communities alone if they are actively moderated.

Ok nevermind she’s apparently saying /c/StarTrek and /c/Risa are “spam”?

millie,

I was actually specifically referring to Value Subtracted constantly spamming empty threads and ST:O ads.

Admin,
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Per instance guidelines, submitting on-topic content to relevant communities is not considered spam. But if you want to stay subscribed to /c/STO and block ValueSubtracted’s “spam” StarTrek.website has a block feature you can find on their userpage.

millie,

I do like the non-spam content on this instance, such as Quark’s and Daystrom. I’m subscribed to it through other accounts, but occasionally I poke my head in on the actual account I have here.

Personally, with most of the instances I actually use, I find it easier to just look at the Local feed. On this instance, however, a significant portion of what gets posted is just repetitive spam, so it’s hard to really do that. It’s much easier to subscribe to individual interesting communities, such as Daystrom and Quark’s, through other instances that I’m more likely to actively use.

I suppose if you don’t care what kind of experience anyone has on your instance, that’s your business.

ValueSubtracted,
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millie,

I’m referring to your constant advertisement posts.

Admin, (edited )
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The admin team doesn’t make instance decisions based on what’s “popular”. It’s actually against our mission statement. Though that doesn’t mean community input is ignored.

But that being said, admins can see who’s voting and we can see that the downvotes are not coming from users with much/any history in this community. So we are not taking their feedback strongly into account.

Wolf314159,

This logic is bonkers. Lurkers are part of the community too. Everyone participates in their own way.

Admin,
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The admin team doesn’t make instance decisions based on what’s “popular”. It’s actually against our mission statement. Though that doesn’t mean community input is ignored.

But that being said, admins can see who’s voting and we can see that the downvotes are not coming from users with much/any history in this community. So we are not taking their feedback strongly into account.

Admin,
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The admin team doesn’t make instance decisions based on what’s “popular”. It’s actually against our mission statement. Though that doesn’t mean community input is ignored.

But that being said, admins can see who’s voting and we can see that the downvotes are not coming from users with much/any history in this community. So we are not taking their feedback strongly into account.

bobburger, in Announcement to non-StarTrek.website users: on July 10th, c/Quarks will change to "locals only". Thanks to the Lemmy devs for this new feature!

Good luck folks, I think each server having it's own identity and it's own place is something that makes the fediverse great.

Admin,
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Thanks, we do too!

ThunderclapSasquatch,

You should be here, making burgers of the day using the entire galaxy of ingredients

deegeese, in Announcement to non-StarTrek.website users: on July 10th, c/Quarks will change to "locals only". Thanks to the Lemmy devs for this new feature!

That’s a total bummer but I’m not moving my whole identity for one single community. If everyone did this, Fedi would be an ever lonelier place.

Bye 👋

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ValueSubtracted,
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I’m legitimately curious: what is the appeal of this community to a remote user?

deegeese,

On my home instance, the community !meta is for discussing issues specific to the instance, it’s not really relevant to people not using the instance.

On startrek.website, the Quarks community seems to primarily discuss Star Trek adjacent topics which are of interest to many Trek fans.

I think it’s great that you guys want a private community for discussing things only relevant to the instance. I just wish you hadn’t chosen to close a community with broad external interest.

ValueSubtracted,
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Thanks for the response.

We’ll probably relax the rules on c/startrek a bit to allow a degree of Trek-adjacent content that we might have previously punted to Quark’s.

I’m thinking of stuff like the Paramount acquisition drama, which is off-topic but clearly still relevant.

Expanding outward from there into stuff like “here’s what Frakes is up to,” we approach territory that can be covered just as well elsewhere in the Fediverse.

deegeese,

Trek-adjacent discussions

Literally the first topic of this community, according to the sidebar. Sales of expired Yamok sauce are also relevant to Trek fans on other instances.

ValueSubtracted,
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And to be clear, Trek-adjacent discussions will continue to be allowed in Quark’s. I just don’t think making the community private will be some great blow to the Fediverse.

If it helps, we will allow sales of expired Yamok sauce in c/startrek, provided the seller can produce a certificate of authenticity.

deegeese,

I just don’t see how closing everyone else out from Trek adjacent discussions helps the community.

The whole point of federation is letting people with varied interests come together. It doesn’t work if every niche interest makes their “general” board private.

ValueSubtracted, (edited )
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I mean, if we’re talking about the sidebar…

General off-topic chat for the crew of startrek.website.

But I do understand and appreciate the perspective. It’s in-line with the internal discussion we had when making the decision.

deegeese,

But aren’t all Trek-related discussions on-topic?

If you’re going to ban “outsiders” from off-topic chat, you should also ban on-topic chat from the off-topic community.

ValueSubtracted,
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If the concern is that we’re going to have a sooper secret, members-only Star Trek discussion group, that is not the intent. If we were going to do that, we’d just make the instance private.

deegeese,

No, I’m concerned about balkanization of the community of Trek fans.

ValueSubtracted,
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Oh. Okay.

StillPaisleyCat,
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I have to say that this makes me rather sad.

Instead of drawing folks into the fandom tent with adjacent topics or broadening the discussion of established fans, it’s creating less conversation.

I think that there’s a place for a ‘discuss the health of the instance’ conversation on a separate dedicated community, but also a Trek-adjacent general and open discussion. I consider Frakes’ career as a sci-fi director or the Paramount saga as adjacent.

As long as it meets the norms of the instance in terms of civility, why not? Are the admins/mods truly being flooded with a high volume of spam from outside on Quarks?

Last, I would like to note that without Quark’s being open, I doubt we’d have had the interest to create the Dr Who community. I think that it’s cool that it percolated up through the discussion.

Admin,
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I hear you, but “drawing folks into the fandom tent” was not what Quark’s (or the instance for that matter) was created for. Quark’s has always been “General off-topic chat for the crew of startrek.website.”.

That said, if you or anyone else wanted to create a community with that or a related stated purpose (and promised to grow and actively maintain it in line with instance values) I would be more than happy to entertain the idea. But you can’t have mine lol

starkraving666,
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ValueSubtracted,
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Yeah, it’s probably good to mention that all (I think?) of our DMs are open if someone has a suggestion for us.

starkraving666,
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@ValueSubtracted @deegeese you're joking, right?

I only discovered this place after I was on fedi for 3+ years. It's incredible and amazing to be able to participate remotely. I honestly can't fathom why you WOULDN'T want that. But hey if they want to close it then bye I guess.

ValueSubtracted,
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From what I can see, you’ve only participated in this community once, nine months ago.

The other communities (StarTrek, Daystrom, Risa, etc.) are all staying open and federated.

starkraving666,
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@ValueSubtracted oh I didn't realize there were requirements for "participation" my bad

ValueSubtracted,
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It was just a point of clarification in case you misunderstood.

starkraving666,
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@ValueSubtracted oh I completely understand now that liking, boosting, or privately enjoying posts is not an acceptable level of engagement in an online community where "participation" is required. Thanks 🖖💫

ValueSubtracted,
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OK

jonny,
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@starkraving666
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Never trust an instance with a closed governance process

jonny,
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@starkraving666
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Except jorts which transcends governance entirely

DakkiReads,
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@jonny @starkraving666 @ValueSubtracted wait, we have governance?

I thought the owner of this instance just set it up in some substance-induced euphoria and then forgot it existed

Ledivin, in Announcement to non-StarTrek.website users: on July 10th, c/Quarks will change to "locals only". Thanks to the Lemmy devs for this new feature!

…and the fractured drawbacks of lemmy slowly become apparent. I see this happening more and more, and don’t expect lemmy to survive if it continues.

ValueSubtracted,
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YOU KILLED LEMMY

YOU BASTARDS

StillPaisleyCat, in Skydance Media and National Amusements Inc. Reach New Merger Agreement for Paramount Global
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The waiting period for a better offer seems like a deft way to fend off ‘if only’ lawsuits from nonvoting shareholders.

Interesting gamesmanship.

aaaaace, in Highlighting journalism on Mastodon

It had such promise, then the two largest instances sold out their users to Meta like chattel.

The fediverse needs to be far more hostile to commercial social media.

Corgana,
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Personally I like being able to follow Threads accounts without exposing my info to Meta.

Corgana, in Highlighting journalism on Mastodon
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This is very cool, and will hopefully encourage more journalists to be active on Mastodon.

AndorianSoup, in ‘Star Trek’ Alum Jonathan Frakes to Direct Sci-Fi Adaptation of ‘Arthur C. Clarke’s Venus Prime’
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StillPaisleyCat, in ‘Star Trek’ Alum Jonathan Frakes to Direct Sci-Fi Adaptation of ‘Arthur C. Clarke’s Venus Prime’
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This is great news for Frakes.

He was on the upswing as a director until the debacle of the Thunderbirds movie basically made him unemployable.

Star Trek has enabled him to get back into directing work, and even some acting.

He’s been picking up directing work beyond the franchise over the last few years, but an EP supervising director role for an entire limited series adaptation of a prestige author is definitely a step forward.

ValueSubtracted, in ‘Star Trek’ Alum Jonathan Frakes to Direct Sci-Fi Adaptation of ‘Arthur C. Clarke’s Venus Prime’
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I’m not familiar with Venus Prime - it’s apparently based on the short story Breaking Strain, which has been spun into a novel series by Paul Preuss.

Corgana,
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Thank you for posting this. I am a big Arthur C Clarke fan and had never heard of it, and my google-fu turned up nothing.

StillPaisleyCat,
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‘Venus Prime’ is the way the novelizations were branded and marketed starting with the first book ‘Breaking Strain’ in 1987.

As you can see from the cover image, it was an early example of the ‘hot babe with powers’ marketing approach.

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/7fd358b7-f45d-4f99-9a66-721ec6ef94cd.jpeg

ValueSubtracted,
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Brannon Braga, eat your heart out!

StillPaisleyCat,
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Her hair even goes white-blond as of book 2. LOL

I have observed elsewhere that no women are announced in the creative team. I hope they get a strong female-presenting A-list lead who insists on EP status.

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/b6c5af68-74f3-4f1c-bc03-5e261d3f0581.jpeg

data1701d, in StarTrek.Website has upgraded to Lemmy v0.19.5!
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I’m excited at the update. However, I am experiencing a small issue. I use the i386 theme. However, the color scheme (and nothing else, like fonts or borders) has reverted from its usual blue to the default dark mode colors. I tried clearing my browser data to see if that would clear things up, but Shaka when the walls fell. I don’t know if this is an upstream issue (which is my guess) or something else, as I am inexperienced with Lemmy infrastructure.

Otherwise, it’s all working fine. Thanks for your efforts, and glory to your house!

ValueSubtracted, (edited )
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Have you checked your user settings? It’s possible that the update reverted your preference to the default. i386 should still be available.

Never mind, I did some digging, and it looks like something has changed and/or is broken with the theme itself. I’ll keep an eye out for a possible solution.

data1701d,
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Okie dokie!

Morgoon, in StarTrek.Website has upgraded to Lemmy v0.19.5!

May we continue to live long and prosper

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