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n3m37h, in NASA's Voyager 1 Spacecraft Is Speaking Gibberish

Can NASA start making motherboards for PCs? Average lifetime for one now is under 10 years

lurch,

They usually become outdated before they break, ie. an important component like the CPU can’t be upgraded any more, because it won’t fit, so you need to upgrade the whole thing.

n3m37h,

Yes I know Intel works on a Tic Tock system so every 2 generations they change the pinouts. AM4 lasted 4 generations, hopefully AM5 will too but unlikely. Still a CPU will last well over 10 years. Motherboards on the other hand, dont even though they should last a lot longer esp considering all the tantilum / other SMD capacitors.

Voyager also only uses mW of power compared to the 25-300w of current CPUs

Alson I was joking about NASA doing anything other than space stuff

hips_and_nips, (edited )

Just FYI, the tick-tock model followed by Intel doesn’t directly have anything to do with sockets and pin outs.

The tick-tock model meant that after each change of the microarchitecture was followed by a die shrink. While a new socket is likely a consequence of these changes, it is a necessary byproduct rather than an intentional change.

Furthermore, Intel hasn’t used the tick-tock model since 2016.

However, trying to compare terrestrial consumer hardware with rugged radiation hardened hardware is futile. They have drastically different design/engineering specs that have hard limits with respect to physics, even special process nodes for true radiation hardening (RHBP). I think they’re only 150nm, I want to say there were some RHBP 65nm FPGAs recently, but I’m not 100%.

I have a feeling though if NASA were to make components, they’d all just be specialized embedded systems rather than anything consumer or enterprise. After all, computers are but tools to do different jobs.

n3m37h,

Can ya not take a joke? I even stated as much lmao

hips_and_nips,

Hahaha, yeahhhhhh, sorry mate. I get going about space electronics and there goes the rest of the day!

n3m37h,

All good, I get a kick on showing my knowledge too haha or lack of in most cases.

I still want a mobo that can outlast my fkn CPU! HELP NASA! ;)

PS thanks for correcting me about the end of Intel’s tic tock model with their inability to shrink a node for 5 or so years

Cort, (edited )

While am4 lasted 4 generations, you can’t put 4th Gen chips in a 1st Gen board or vice versa. There are even some 1st Gen boards that can’t do 3rd Gen chips and vice versa.

I was fairly disappointed when I found out AMD blocked Asus from updating 1st & 2nd Gen motherboards to be able to use pcie 4.0 with an agesa update on the BIOS. Blocked is probably the wrong word here though as Asus had already released the boss updates that unlocked pcie 4 on 1st Gen boards with 3rd Gen CPUs. /Rant

Edited: verb tenses

n3m37h,

Sadly there is actually a good reason for gen 3 boards not being able to support gen 4 even though its a firmware lock. Signal integrity.

Cort,

No, like Asus tested and certified half of their existing motherboards and released it and it worked fine for a couple weeks before AMD removed that ability. I get why some people may not want to risk signal integrity, but that should be my choice, not AMD’s.

n3m37h,

Never heard about that. Pretty shady shit.

negativenull, in Introducing c/GreatestGen!
@negativenull@startrek.website avatar

Somehow I’ve never considered a Trek podcast (and I listen to a lot of podcasts). I’ll have to check these out!

Jaccident,

I was the same. I started listing to podcasts in about 2007, it wasn’t until 2018 I started listening to a Star Trek pod. Ben and Adam are my personal recommendation because they A. Are funny B. Go episode by episode, giving the show a really followable structure C. Used to be film production professionals and pick up on techniques that even I, a fellow film production professional, don’t notice.

They love trek, but will happily rip the arse out of it when deserved.

Jaccident, in Introducing c/GreatestGen!

Thank you for the shout out. Fellow Friends of DeSoto, frequenters of the Hood, embarrassed double-dumbasses, please pop over.

lurch, in NASA's Voyager 1 Spacecraft Is Speaking Gibberish

I watched that Star Trek movie

n3m37h, in Marvel Studios' VFX Staff Unanimously Votes to Unionize

Maybe pay some of these actors less and pay everyone fairly

porthos, in Anyone can edit our wiki now

Very cool, memory alpha has so many ads on it ughh

not_exactly, in living in Europe

I come to term with this by reminding myself of how shite it is everywhere these days. You’ll find right wing tendencies all over the world, whether that’s South East Asia, Africa or America of course.

This doesn’t mean I stop fighting for what I believe is right (basically leaving people the fuck alone instead of attacking them for their gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion). It just helps me not constantly re-considering whether I’ve made the right choice by living in Europe.

That said, anyone has an idea of how to not be annoyed by far right dudes describing themselves as trekkies?

NoiseColor,

I haven’t seen any of those. I dont get how they could exist in such a cognitive dissonance.

Varyk, in living in Europe

I don’t stay in one place too long. When I first arrive in a place I can trick myself into hoping that community I’ve just moved to is progressive, kind and curious. I like living in places I can’t speak the language of, also.

Other travelers are the most communal and open-minded people I know and I feel comfortable around them because I know they’re actually listening when I talk and experiencing the moment, sedentary people tend to cultivate arbitrary or circumstantial opinions they misrepresent as considered values that they huddle behind and reinforce.

burgersc12, in fediverse == federation?

Federation is how two different instances are able to communicate within the Fediverse. The current worldwide email system is also based on the idea of federation, but it is not within the Fediverse. Hope that clears it up a bit!

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The Fediverse == A federation
startrek == The Federation

i seem room for slang here, and im messy.

The Fediverse == The federation ??

/obtuse geriatric

Serinus,

Star Trek has a federation of Humans, Vulcans, and many other races. Their ships are still separate, but they work together.

The Fediverse has a federation of Startrek.Website, Lemmy.World, Sh.itjustwo.rks, etc.

Email has a federation of gmail.com, yahoo.com, microsoft.com, aol.com, every corporate.com, spectrum.net, tons and tons of small servers. This is probably the biggest federation. Many servers will choose to only federate with specific instances, or may explicitly defederate with a list of instances. If I stand up a private, home email on my own domain, there’s no guarantee that your work will accept my emails.

apotheotic, in fediverse == federation?

The fediverse is the network of federated instances

Federation is the process by which content and interactions are aggregated and shared between all instances

They’re definitely not interchangeable words.

Incidentally I can’t load the link you shared, it takes me to a blank homepage for some instance

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

i think i fixed that link. posting inline images/links seems a bit wonky from my instance. drivin me bonkers

Stamets, in StarTrek.website now has a wiki (and mission statement)!
@Stamets@startrek.website avatar

S-tier blank Trek meme templates

Well, I have access to every episode of Trek. I’m not great at making new memes but if you want a template re-made or cleaned up then I can definitely do that. Otherwise… @The_Picard_Maneuver I think this is a job for you, my man.

patreon shill link

Nah. Make that bigger. Put a header tag in front of it at the bottom. Y’all deserve it for making this place as awesome as it is! This wiki only being an example of it.

Thank you all for being awesome and giving me a new home that I have utterly ruined with memes.

Admin,
@Admin@startrek.website avatar

Thanks for the kind words, I was just throwing random ideas out there to get juices flowing about wiki potential.

Perhaps we should rename the instance to “Stamets’ no bloody A, B, C or D-tier meme emporium and other minor associated Star Trek communities”

Stamets,
@Stamets@startrek.website avatar

But of course. Y’all deserve it!

As for the name change, I don’t know if that domain is available

negativenull,

BTW: stamets.website is available ;)

Stamets,
@Stamets@startrek.website avatar

If I had the money I would in a heart beat…

tkn,
@tkn@startrek.website avatar

If I might gently offer an alternative suggestion for how to fund ST:WEB, check out my post on Medium (link below). It’s the first in a series on my ideas about how to reshape the internet for better human survivability with tools we’ve had in our open-source toolkits for years. tl;dr: reduce the friction between the consumer and the content by focusing on cost and cutting out the ridiculous proliferation of middle-men while eliminating the need for advertising revenue.

medium.com/…/saving-the-internet-for-humanity-dol…

And hilariously enough, my wife JUST sent me this post: cbsnews.com/…/irs-delay-600-reporting-form-venmo-…

This means that with my plan, no tax burden… :)

Stamets, in The Fourteenth Doctor is Here! | BBC Children in Need 2023 | Doctor Who
@Stamets@startrek.website avatar

Davids still got it…

whodatdair, in New image shows that lost ISS tool bag zipping around in Earth orbit

None of the tool bags in politics or cinema should be famous, this should be the only famous tool bag.

AngryCommieKender,

This isn’t the only toolbag they’ve lost. It’s just the only one that hasn’t burned up yet

DestroyerOfWorlds, in Titmouse Foundation Partners With Warrior Art Camp To Advance Diverse Animation Talent Through Scholarship Program

cool. Is Titmouse a Union house?

ValueSubtracted,
@ValueSubtracted@startrek.website avatar

Both their New York and Vancouver studios have joined IATSE in the last few years - the Canadian studio was the first animation house in the country to join a union, ever.

StillPaisleyCat, in ‘Coyote Vs. Acme’: Warner Bros Setting Up Screenings For Streamers Of Axed Looney Tunes Film; Amazon A Prime Candidate – The Dish
@StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website avatar

So they think it’s better to get a tax write off of half the cost, and sell it to a streamer to cover the other half, than make money and profit with a global cinematic release?

ValueSubtracted,
@ValueSubtracted@startrek.website avatar

I’m not sure it’s accurate to say that they “think.”

StillPaisleyCat,
@StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website avatar

Well, I’m not going to assume that every decision made by the senior decision-makers in a company is rational for the firm or for ‘maximizing shareholder wealth’ in the long term.

CEOs and executives may act in their own, or their firm’s short term interests, they can however also get complex decisions entirely wrong. Not to mention tax law can incentivize some sub rational behaviour.

There are enough historical cases of absolutely bad thinking running companies into the ground, with deceptive practices that leave lenders and subcontractors short.

The stock market’s reaction to act against bad management can be tardy.

(I’m setting aside corporations taking responsibility for larger societal benefits here because US SEC norms for publicly traded corporations don’t provide for that the way they are in Canadian or European law. In the other hand, there may be some arguments that some of these actions are anticompetitive, and worthy of antitrust investigation.)

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