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PugJesus, in Lemmy.world has gone read only to us
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Yeah, something to do with voting from Kbin causing a loop and a huge amount of data to pass back and forth. Hope Ernest fixes it soon.

bluGill, in Can we help against spammers?

Mostly we need Earnst (or some other kbin develop) to develop more tools to combat Spam. This is easy to ask for, but not easy to implement.

insomniac_lemon,
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This is easy to ask for, but not easy to implement.

The problem I see (and what influenced the tone of my other comment) is that I don't think I've seen any acknowledgement about any sort of filtering and this is a persistent problem. I get it, but also it seems really unnecessary to manually remove the 10 threads obviously not made by humans (or even just the 3 accounts that just popped up in a close time-frame).

It doesn't need to be perfect, surely any technique can be worked-around eventually but that also introduces extra steps (that spammers don't need to take now) that makes it harder and less likely. Doing so I think makes moderation much more viable and impactful.

Even just some sort of auto-spoiler/warning (multiple suspicious keywords in a non-relevant community, new user, 3 threads in an hour etc) could have an effect.

BaldProphet, in I'm seeing more microblog posts
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It's been a feature at least since the Reddit protest last year, which is when I started using kbin.

Kierunkowy74,
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It was available from day one of kbin.social. And even earlier.

livus, in I'm seeing more microblog posts
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Not sure where you're seeing them... it's always been in the microblog section, you can also follow individuals on Mastodon. They also come up in searches and hashtags.

Don't be intimidated, interaction works just fine!

HeartyBeast, in I'm seeing more microblog posts

Perhaps you switched your view from ‘Threads’ to ‘All content’ without realising?

rhythmisaprancer,
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I'm not sure, it is set there now but I no longer see the posts... Must be a setting somewhere.

Indy, in Can we help against spammers?

Starting to feel like there's more SPAM than posts on Kbin, at this point.
I sort by new and comb through reporting "SPAM" and blocking users, but it's a never-ending cycle it seems and users reported for SPAM are still posting (hence why I block them in addition to reporting the individual posts).

bluGill, in Banning spam accounts

kbin needs to do a lot here. I'm not sure what is the state of the art now, but kbin isn't following the basics.

livus, in Banning spam accounts
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Wait what? That's so annoying.

jayrhacker, in Banning spam accounts

It would be nice if the report feature had a way to indicate if the problem is spam, content or whatever other issues people might have. You could have a threshold for spam reports to put the account in review and prevent of hide it's posts.

testing,
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@jayrhacker
Would you elaborate on this?

bluGill,

I have to type 4 letters for every spam I see. I'd prefer to check a box (on my phone where typing is annoying this is even more useful) I do this dozens of times per day - it gets annoying fast.

jayrhacker,

A short pull-down list would work well: Spam, Harassment, Site ToS Violation, Thread/Group Rules Violation, etc.

This way you can automate rules like: if an article get's N spam or harassment reports it's put into the review queue and hidden until a Moderator can review it.

Kierunkowy74,
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You can write a reason when you report a post. Are you actually seeing that as a moderator?

testing, (edited )
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@Kierunkowy74
Yes, moderators can access the reports tab within the magazine panel. Every report must include some reason, hence moderators see them. Regarding bans: without giving a proper reason, no ban can come into effect.

You can also check the modlogs on kbin and lemmy instances for bans (does not apply to mbin).
@bayaz @jayrhacker

insomniac_lemon,
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Most forums have dedicated categories for common stuff like this. Written reports are fine if an explanation is needed, not for the newly created samename37 spambot account illicitly selling drugs (or something that is probably phishing, like the delta airlines refund ticket type stuff) without really doing much to hide it.

It's the same communities and overwhelming at times to the point it doesn't even feel productive or even needed to report it. This is the lowest of low-hanging fruit.

shazbot,

Could you point me to some of the magazines where you feel this is particularly rampant right now?

bayaz, in Banning spam accounts

What the... ugh. I've been doing this for months. Thanks for letting me know.

testing,
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@bayaz It's you who gave me food for thought, alongside many other moderators! I only found out yesterday how to properly ban spam accs on kbin.social.

I really appreciate all efforts to grow and take care of communities, be it on kbin, on lemmy, or on mbin! Every day, I try to keep learning from other moderators.

Given the sheer lack of moderation tools, many mods do great work. I hope the situation will improve so that moderatoring will become easier.

mihnt, in The future of kbin.earth...

kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/…/RE-Is-Ernest-still-here

There’s been a lot more updates since then. Is he still not working on anything?

Edit: I see it’s been 2 months on codeberg.

HubertManne, in KES 4.1.0: Improving the signal to noise ratio by blocking unsolicited ads
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So far don't see the option but ready to jump on it.

shazbot,

How do you typically update your KES?

HubertManne,
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actually I don't. I read this on kbinmeta and thought it was a general improvement to kbin. oh well.

shazbot,

I understand if you don't want to add yet another third-party tool just to browse the site, but if you feel at all inclined, give it a try. For me 99% of magazines went from unusable to essentially clean.

HubertManne,
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I don't use a smartphone. im a smartphone luddite. Heck I don't even have a cell phone on me often unless I know I need it (expecting a call or oncall)

sab, in The future of kbin.earth...
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I've been curious about trying out mbin, and this seems like a good instance to do it on. So I absolutely like option 2 the best.

That said, I tried to sign up earlier today, and never received the registration email. Tried to sign up with an old Gmail account. Might be worth looking into. :)

jwr1,
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Sorry about that, and thanks for letting me know. I had no idea the email system was down. I'll probably try to look into it after the migration to Mbin. I've gone ahead and manually verified each user from the past week, so you should be able to sign in now.

jwr1,
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Ok, I was able to figure out what was wrong. All registration and password reset emails should be working now.

Varen,
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So the migration to mbin is done or just wanted to fix that first anyways? ^^

jwr1,
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No, we haven't migrated yet. I just decided to fix that first.

Varen,
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Ok. I think Im gonna test it out aswell once migration is done

jwr1,
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Sounds good! Migration probably won't happen today, but maybe tomorrow or the day after if we get lucky. Unfortunately, I ran into a problem while trying to set up Mbin due to one of the mbin/kbin dependencies suddenly disappearing out of the blue (see here).

jwr1,
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The migration to Mbin is complete! Let me know if you run into any issues.

Varen,
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Awesome! Will look to register tonight or tomorrow, when I find the time. Thanks for letting me know :)

Kotking, in KES 4.1.0: Improving the signal to noise ratio by blocking unsolicited ads
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Thanks for the hard work!
Even though I don't post much so mostly ignore all those messages, still it is a big problem. Until we get it sorted out having tools like these helps stop "bleeding" by people who want to use kbin.
Had few pop up on my magazine even though there is barely a traction but saw few times bloat when posted on other magazines which is really discouraging.

shazbot,

I don't read magazines in-depth much either, so I wasn't aware of the extent of the issue at first, but I was appalled at what I saw. I agree with you that it creates a negative impression for anyone wanting to venture into or use a magazine. I know that needing KES upfront may be a non-starter for some people, but for me the difference with filtering is night and day now.

novamdomum, in Can we help against spammers?
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Actually, it would really help if the "Block" button was right next to the username on the spam post. Having to hover over the name and wait for the modal to appear and then go click on "Block" makes it more of a nuisance. I wonder also if in the future you could choose not to display posts by user accounts less than a month old with only downvotes or who have been blocked by hundreds of people.

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