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Deceptichum, in What are your thoughts on Microblogs vs threads?
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Fucking hate it.

Splits communities and Twitter was always a shit format, not something to be emulated.

MeccAnon, in To those genuinely interested in moderating
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How does it work when you ask to moderate a federated magazine?

daredevil,
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Sorry, I couldn't tell you. I'm just trying to spread some awareness. Your best shot is asking Ernest.

MeccAnon,
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No worries, thanks anyway!

GeekFTW,
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If you didn't get an answer elsewhere yet: You click the button and it sits pending until approved (whether its Ernest approving manually or an automated batchjob I don't know). Seems to be once a day or so, so could be either but that's just anecdotal. That's it tho. Click the button and wait, no other steps lol.

Either way, once approved the magazine will just appear in your moderated list on your profile (no notification or anything from what I've seen) and from there it's yours to do with as you want. I've claimed a dozen or so over the last day or so to delete (unused ones people sat on).

ernest, in Could we have 'hide' post back again please?
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Never seen that option here before :D Are you sure you haven't used any userstyle like KES or something?

HeartyBeast,

That's embarrassing. Quite possibly. Sorry for bothering you. Handy option though :)

ernest,
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Yeah, I agree that it's quite useful. I'm pretty sure that at some point, it will be included in the basic version of kbin.

shazbot,

Hi, this feature is still available and working in KES under Threads > Permanently Hide Posts. The hide link appears next to the more button, not inside of the more menu. Give it a try.

HeartyBeast,

Thanks!

ernest,
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ContentConsumer9999,

Hey, Ernest! Do you have any suggestions for userstyles? Maybe ones that includes stuff you want to add but don't have the time to yet.

Damaskox, in What do you think about upvoting/boosting your own post?
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I don't do it myself.
Even if I got 1000 upvotes for a comment or a post, knowing that one of them would be my own feels...strange to me.

There's something about "being 100% legit" through not upvoting my own stuff.

HubertManne, in Could there be a "Filter" button for magazines?
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I like this. Would also make it easier to double check your blocks in case something improved.

ernest, in Could there be a "subscribe to thread" option?
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Hey, I've had it on my radar for a while. This option will be added when it's time to work on notifications in general.

Crul, in Missing search results when looking for federated communities (at Lemmy)

You can access communities through the URL:

https://kbin.social/m/COMMUNITY@INSTANCE

Example:

kbin.social/m/cassettefuturism@lemm.ee

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,

Thanks, that worked, although I cannot see any of the posts in the original community :(

Crul,

I cannot see any of the posts in the original community :(

I cannot helps with that :/

I know federation is not perfect. I would suggest trying again later just in case it’s taking some time to get the data from the other instance.

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,

Thanks, I will

Prouvaire, in Missing search results when looking for federated communities (at Lemmy)

This is one of the biggest issues and barriers to discoverability with the Fediverse in my opinion.

As I understand it, unless an instance has already subscribed to a community (magazine in kbin parlance), then in order to make that community (magazine) appear in your own instance, you need to:

  • First search for the community (including the community's home instance) name in the magazine search function.
  • The search will come up blank, but the act of searching for it will trigger a backend request for your instance to start federating content from that community. However there's no message to tell you that it's doing that. It just looks like that community doesn't exist.
  • Further, it may take up to several days (in my experience) for federation to start, ie, you have to repeat the search for the community and only then can you subscribe to (follow) that community
  • And when it does start, it only starts grabbing new content. So first it looks like the community doesn't exist, then it takes a long time for content to appear, and then it looks like the community is sparsely populated unless you go back to the community's home instance, rather than staying in your own instance, to catch up on old content.
  • Further pinned posts aren't federated (at least between lemmy and kbin I believe), so you can't even rely on a "here's what you need to know" introductory post to orient new members.

Contrast this to reddit, where (because it's a centralised system) searching for a subreddit produces immediate results, you can join a subreddit immediately, and you can immediately see all current and past content for that subreddit. Much more intuitive and useful to users.

Unfortunately the activitypub protocol that underlies lemmy and kbin doesn't appear to have been designed for reddit-like communities in mind. Ie communities that tend to feature long-form content, posted relatively sporadically, and where having access to the community's archive is very useful to members. It works somewhat better for twitter-like communities where it's easier to jump in "mid-stream" and - because posts tend to be only a few words long - you're more likely to start seeing new content after only a short delay.

I wish that this is something that's addressed at the Fediverse level.

kopper,

there actually is a way to "backfill" content, being the outbox. (although it was not meant to be used this way, from what i can see from reading what little documentation is out there)

lemmy uses it to federate about 10 or so (i think it was?) of the latest posts, and most microblog implementations use to federate the "pinned" posts of an account

activitypub has quite a lot of quirks, both spec-wise and implementation wise, and there are many reasons including an apparent near civil war inside the working group which resulted in this messy state it's ended up in

honestly the fact that this protocol works at all is a miracle

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,

I'm a bit lost in the jargon. What is backfill and what is the outbox?

kopper,

@Doll_Tow_Jet@kbin.social I don't know if that's the official word for it but I'm using "backfilling" to refer to loading the history of a person or group after first federating with it.

the outbox is a special collection (list in activitypub speak) that's intended to work kinda like an old school email outbox where you put messages to be delivered and it would deliver them to the inboxes of people (and servers that were offline at that time would later pull them in from the outbox)

or, well, that's what the spec says. nobody uses it like that in reality because activity pub was intended for a completely different kind of social media than how it ended up being used (it seems to expect more "everything apps", including an entire client api that would completely abstract away the instance into nothing more than a dumb pipe for activities unlike the current reality where instance software dictate what you can do)

this probably confused you even more but it's getting pretty late here so I can't words good, sorry!

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,

Thanks, that's valuable information to know

rhythmisaprancer,
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Thank you for posting this! A nice refresher as I had forgotten.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, in Could there be a "Filter" button for magazines?
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I think it'd be simpler to just change the block button so it does that. Adding a new "filter" button would lead to newcomers being confused on what the difference is. Besides, I don't think there's much benefit to being completely unable to view a magazine.

Skavau,

Sure. Or that.

shazbot, in Could there be a "Filter" button for magazines?

Hello, I have added this feature to KES (third party extension) today. I believe it is working correctly based on your requirements:

  • Show an icon next to magazine names on the main thread index (https://kbin.social or https://kbin.social/sub if logged in). Click this icon to "softblock" threads from that magazine from appearing on your main thread index. This does not block the magazine outright: you can still go to the magazine directly, so it is less aggressive than a total block.
  • Show a Softblock/Unsoftblock button in the sidebar of magazines, as well as in the Magazines index located at https://kbin.social/magazines. As you would expect, this button has the effect of adding/removing a magazine from your filters.
  • Show a tab at the top of the Magazines index that you can use to centrally manage your softblocked magazines. For the time being, this is merely informational.

Full details can be found in the release notes here over at /m/enhancement.

Let me know if this gives you the functionality you wanted.

Raffster, in Can't block Hexbear communities - with workaround

Same experience here, blocking does not work, Ernest knows but I guess it's not priority number one right now. It's a deal braker for me. Thank you so much for the filter option!

Gordon_Freeman, in Can't block Hexbear communities - with workaround
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Raffster,

I like to explore new/all sometimes to find new communitiies so that's unfortunately not helping. And it's really only a problem with hexbears, everything else blocks just fine.

amio,

That's a fix for a different issue. Discoverability here is pretty bad, so the front page is sort of a necessary evil to me.

tacosanonymous, in Can't block Hexbear communities - with workaround

I’ve learned that if you interact with them, they’ll block you.

Raffster,

Yo'll still see their horrid propaganda though...

Raffster,

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  • tacosanonymous,

    Damn…

    amio,

    Yeah, for being a bunch of "totally not trolls lol" they're remarkably thin-skinned.

    Pons_Aelius,

    That is completely normal. The one thing trolls hate is to be the target of the behaviours they love to inflict on others.

    ghostatnoon, in Missing search results when looking for federated communities (at Lemmy)
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    It's usually easier to search via external sites (https://lemmyverse.net/ and https://browse.feddit.de/ are the ones I've been using). You'll still have to manually copy over the magazine name in order to subscribe for it, but you'll get a wider variety of results without having to go to each instance individually.

    Doll_Tow_Jet-ski,

    Thanks for the tip, that's a good workaround

    originalucifer, in Can I post a new thread from kbin to a lemmy community?
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    try this..
    click 'magazines' at the top
    then type in the name of the remote community you want, like 'funny'.. it should then show you all those remote communities and the local one.... click the community you want to post in
    then you should see a banner at the top reminding you youre looking at a local version of a remote community, click the '+' sign and select the post type... this will initiate a new thread.

    Maestro,
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    Thank you, that worked!

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