stopthatgirl7

stopthatgirl7, 2 months ago

That’s about where I am, honestly. I’m starting to look for alternatives.

I can deal with the site having the occasional problem, but I can’t deal with absolutely no communication at all when things break down. Kbin has gotten too big to be a one-person operation.

This is now the fourth post I’ve seen about people starting to get fed up, and honestly, you know people are starting to hit their limits once people start making posts about their frustrations. I bet a lot of folks have just quietly given up or moved to lemmy or mbin because they’ve gotten frustrated with all the issues.

I’m a pretty patient person and can put up with a lot of goofiness on a site, as long as there’s some kind of communication happening. But there’s none.

stopthatgirl7, 2 months ago

The fact that we’re sitting here theorizing where Ernest is like he’s Kate Middleton is why this can’t be a one-man operation anymore. It’s too much for one person to begin with, and when people have no idea what’s going on, they’ll start going wild with theories as to what’s going on.

stopthatgirl7, 2 months ago

The site errored out repeatedly when I tried to like a comment, so “robust” is not the word I’m thinking right now.

stopthatgirl7, 2 months ago

Has there ever been a time kbin.social didn't do that from time to time?

You understand that’s not a selling point, correct?

Hilariously, I got an error message trying to load the notification for your comment.

And as I’ve said before, I can put up with wonkiness. But I can’t put up with no communication and not knowing what all is wrong or how long things are going to be messy. I like kbin, but I do not like wondering if social is going to go belly up with no warning and no idea when it’ll get fixed when it did start erroring out for days and no way to find out what’s even going on.

stopthatgirl7, 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

I really like kbin, but honestly, with as unstable as it is and how little information is coming out about what’s going on (seriously, there needs to at least be a Mastodon account we can check for updates or information when kbin social is down), I’m seriously considering making a lemmy account and moving over. It’s frustrating, because I do really prefer kbin, but this is beyond frustrating.

stopthatgirl7, 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

I don’t actually mind stuff not getting seen, it’s more not knowing if the site is going to error out when I try to look at it or check replies. Trying to access the site, or trying to upvote things, and getting error messages that are less than useful gets old fast.

stopthatgirl7, 2 months ago

Exactly this. There’s no way to know what’s going on when kbin goes down. It would be nice if there was a kbin Mastodon account or something people could check for information when the site is down.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

There was some confusion about her first name at first, though, so I can kind of see why they did here.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

The name in the URL is the wrong one, though - her first name is misspelled.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

Yeah, about that “most stores shut down door to excessive theft” thing…

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/business/retail-shoplifting-shrink-walgreens/index.html

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

These all sounds like really good changes. I’m excited about them finally revamping search, because a lot of folks never really adopted using hashtags.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

And they are working on - Ernest said that they are rolling out a new version of kbin hopefully by the end of the month that will address some of these moderation issues.

Edit: Here’s where he was talking about it - https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/451896/Is-Kbin-dying-I-wanted-to-address-the-deleted-thread

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

A follow-up post with more details is here: https://beehaw.org/post/7776438

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

I think part of the problem is that moderation tools, in general, on the threadiverse are extremely weak. It’s easy to share across platforms and instances on kbin and lemmy, but it seems to be a nightmare to moderate across platforms and instances, in a way that it isn’t on other Fediverse sites. I can’t tell if it’s by design or by oversight, but it’s going to only become a bigger problem in the future if it isn’t sorted soon. Beehaw’s issues with moderation seem like the canary in the coal mine.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

Looking at all the spam on the science community proves you wrong. It’s on lemmy, and the mods smack down all the spam quickly…On Lemmy. But people looking at it on kbin see constant posts of spam and advertising, making the community completely unusable, because the lemmy admins can’t moderate the page on kbin once it’s federated into the kbin server. Likewise, mods on lemmy and kbin might lock comments on a post that’s getting toxic, but that lock doesn’t carry over to kbin, and they can’t do anything about it. That’s the issue I’m talking about.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

Yes, but the problem is it doesn’t federate. A lemmy mod can remove spam on their lemmy community, but there’s no one to remove the spam once it federates to be on a kbin server. That’s why the science community seen on kbin is swarming with spam - the mods on lemmy remove it, but there’s no one to remove it on kbin, and no way for them to make someone on kbin a moderator for it.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago (edited 7 months ago)

Yes, but the problem is it doesn’t federate. A lemmy mod can remove spam on their lemmy community, but there’s no one to remove the spam once it federates to be on a kbin server. That’s why the science community seen on kbin is swarming with spam - the mods on lemmy remove it, but there’s no one to remove it on kbin until Ernest removes it, because communities default to him as the moderator of the kbin magazine version, and no way for lemmy mods to make someone on kbin a moderator for it.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

A big problem a lot of mods had on Reddit, and why they basically needed 3rd party apps - was that moderation tools weren’t up to snuff. So I don’t quite understand why getting good, robust moderation tools isn’t a top priority for the lemmy devs.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

I really hope more cities do this.

stopthatgirl7, 7 months ago

Because my phone’s in Japanese and I forgot to switch the language when I was posting.