Right now, downvotes (reduces) don't federate to (and from?) Kbin instances. This lack of federation makes the downvote counter really inaccurate—a comment that looks like it's +10 might be -15 when you look at it from lemmy.world....
Might be interesting to have per-instance weighted voting. So local votes would count as 1x, votes from other instances could count as 0.5x, and votes from that one instance that has a lot of vote brigading would count as 0x. Would be useful for smaller, specialized instances that tend to get harassed by outsiders.
I imagine they'd also want to have something you can click that shows how many votes were local, how many were from other instances, how many were blocked, etc.
Actually, that would be really cool and worth doing regardless. Have a voting statistics view for each post where upvotes and downvotes are broken down per instance, and maybe by other criteria too. @ernest
You can use the boost feature. Your boosts are public, but that's usually a good thing. Things you want to save are often things you want to promote, and vice versa.
Pull Requests require at least one (1) other maintainer approval before the PR gets merged (built-in peer review process).
The mbin fork happened when kbin development was looking a lot less active. In any case, it's not necessarily bad to have a diversity of approaches. Due to their differing organizational structures, mbin will likely tend to have more features and more rapid development, but also potentially more bugs, while kbin remains more stable.
Hmm, that seems like not such a good look from Ernest. According to google translate:
I know, honestly it was on purpose. I noticed that forks sync changes immediately with /kbin. I wanted to check how they deal with this much-announced community-based qualitative code review. Answer: they can't cope. Quite an obvious bug was accepted in PR and domerged into the main branch :P It now works properly on the rifle ;)
Hopefully everyone can play nice and work together productively.
Maintainers MAY merge incorrect patches from other Contributors with the goals of (a) ending fruitless discussions, (b) capturing toxic patches in the historical record, (c) engaging with the Contributor on improving their patch quality.
I asked around and asked in the C4 specification matrix room.
And the reason is actually simple. If you merge bad code, have a record of proof in git (pull requests aren't forever it's only a github/gitlab thing).
So the idea is if you merge bad code you have proof in the git record that there is a bad actor. You can always revert the commit again or fix it. And the record can act as a proof in case the community want to get rid of bad actors.
The ability to 'boost' your own comments/threads has been used by a very small number of users in a way that seriously degrades conversation on the platform. These users constantly move their own contributions to the top of the conversation without regard to their value. If allowed to continue it will likely become standard for...
That's because of a bug in the hot sorting. It was working fine for a while, and then broke. Upvoting your own post also fixes it. We should probably have our posts self-upvoted by default anyway, like on reddit and lemmy.
If you've blocked any domains, try unblocking them. Domain blocking is buggy and will hide random stuff from you.
I've got the photo post bug too, but it only seems to affect me on @anime_irl, while @animemes seems to still work fine.
Also, you posted this multiple times, may want to delete the other ones. Whenever you make a post, check the "newest" sort order to make sure it went through, and then upvote your own post to make sure it's visible for everyone on the default "hot" sort order.
Domain blocking isn't instance blocking. It's for if you don't want to see posts that link to, for example, imgur.com. It's also broken and will just hide random posts from you.
Ive spent the last week in shock at the lack of moderation because magazines and federated stuff is only moderated by @ernest who I know is busy with development. But the magazines that are on kbin.social and were setup as "Template" magazines are getting trashed either with spam/porn or toxic comments that were reported long...
All of your posts went through, there's just a bug with sorting. You should delete the duplicates. Unless perhaps the duplication is a commentary on the lack of moderation?
I had to block a few users yesterday. Today, I noticed about ten notifications from users I've blocked—they replied to me, continued to make up lies about my heritage, and I continued to see their comments in my notifications....
Notifications from blocked users is a bug. There isn't really anything that can be done about the "last word" thing, though. On reddit-style platforms, the expectation is that blocking a user just hides their posts and comments. If the blocking user's activity was hidden from the blocked user, then it would be possible to preemptively block someone before defaming them in order to stop them from reporting it.
I may be mistaken on the exact details of how it works on reddit, but allowing non-moderator users to prevent others from replying doesn't sound like a good idea. For comments, preventing a blocked user from replying directly in a child comment means they'll just reply in a sibling comment instead. They still get the last word, so the only thing accomplished is to mess up the threading a little bit.
For posts, preventing blocked users from replying gives the poster pseudo-moderator powers over replies. They can block anyone criticizing or disagreeing with them, giving them significant narrative control. Not exactly desirable.
Blocking should only be for filtering what the blocking user sees. It cannot be a substitute for proper moderation.
Alright, let's pretend that you've blocked me, and that this comment is telling everyone that you smell bad. It's not a direct/child response to your comment, but everyone can see it and knows I'm talking about you. If you don't respond, then by your logic I've "won", and you must in fact smell bad.
It seems more like you're taking a stand on stubborn principle than advocating for good user interface design.
I’m developing a fediverse application and am torn between using lemmy and kbin for the backend. Private messages are a very important feature that I want to include. Does Kbin support private messaging users the way lemmy does?
I've just discovered that lemmy.world (and potentially other) users I've banned from my magazine are still able to comment, comments I can't see on kbin but that do show up on lemmy.world....
This is a software bug. Why would other normal instances not want to know about and enforce community ban lists? That just results in a poor experience for their own users.
For clarification, I am not talking about using multiple accounts. I am talking about using a single account, and giving your own post a single upvote....
Sometimes when I upload a link it doesn't load properly, it happens no big deal, but then I can't delete these buggy posts and then I end up unintentionally spamming a bunch of duplicates as I try to post again...
Generally your posts will be successful despite the error, but they'll also end up buried in the default "hot" view. If you switch to "newest" you should see it. Upvoting your own post should make it show up correctly in hot. No idea about the deletion thing though.
There is a user who posted an irrelevant ad on a magazine I follow, so I clicked their profile to see if the rest of what they posted was spam too. It was. However, I didn’t find a report user option on their profile. Is there one anywhere? I know I can go through and report their individual posts, but I’d also like to flag...
This month, the largest update is planned. It's taking a long time because part of the team is returning from vacation, hence the delays. I hope that the update will resolve some of the most pressing issues. I'm also trying to remove spam systematically, but currently, the code is my priority. After implementing the new version, I will seriously address the community.
If there's anything urgent, currently contacting through the form is the quickest option. Cheers!
It's partly specific to the kbin software, and partly specific to kbin.social. The biggest problem is that the software doesn't currently support having more than one administrator account per instance.
The flagship instance, kbin.social, is administered by ernest, who is also the lead developer of the project. Working on the software seems to keep him plenty busy, to the point where he's not able to keep up with administrator tasks.
Since kbin.social was (I assume) not used by very many people before the reddit migration, almost all the older magazines are owned by ernest, and have no other moderators set. There's also a large number of magazines that were created during the migration, but have since been abandoned by their owners. Reassigning these is a task that currently only ernest can do.
And of course as the most populated instance, kbin.social is a more desirable target for spammers, compared to the other kbin instances.
I recently created an account on a new kbin instance. Is there an easy way to migrate my account to that new instance? I feel like this should be easy to find. As such I suspect that such doesn't exist yet, or I'm an idiot. Both are equally possible.
Pretty sure we're already defederated from grad. We don't have an instances page yet where we could check, but that's been merged into kbin's code and should be available next time the site gets a version update.
Sorry if this has already been asked, but is there a way to know if kbin is or is not federated with another instance? I know there is a way to block domains by typing in https://your kbin instance/d/domain you want to block and blocking them from there, but is there a way to see a list of instances defederated by default?...
Yeah, we haven't had an update in a while. Apparently the next one is going to be pretty big. Ernest said he's aiming for the end of September, but I'm assuming that may slip.
@ernest how do I report a Magazin on kbin.social ? There is a usere called "ps" who is posting to his own "antiwoke" Magazin on kbin.social. Please remove this and dont give them a chance to etablish them self on kbin.social. When I report his stuff it will go to him because he is the moderator of the magazin? Seems like a...
The regulations are quite general, and I would like to refine them together with you and do everything properly.
I have been wondering how instance-wide moderation will end up looking on kbin, once you've had a chance to get a team in place for that. While it is (I assume) a "generalist" instance, it's important to keep in mind that you can't please everyone. Trying to have too broad of an audience will just result in retaining those with a high tolerance for toxicity (usually highly toxic themselves), while everyone else leaves in favor of better-managed spaces.
Communities in general, and particularly on the internet, need to understand what their purpose is, and be proactive about filtering out those that are incompatible with that purpose. This doesn't mean judging those people as wrong, or "bad people", it just means recognizing that not everyone is going to get along, and that some level of group cohesion needs to be maintained.
I think there is value in having both generalist and specialized instances, and the big landing spots for new users should probably strive to be more generalist. As you point out though, there are limits to how broad of an audience one can practically cater to.
What's the plan for downvote federation? (kbin.social)
Right now, downvotes (reduces) don't federate to (and from?) Kbin instances. This lack of federation makes the downvote counter really inaccurate—a comment that looks like it's +10 might be -15 when you look at it from lemmy.world....
Does Kbin have the saving feature? (kbin.social)
I'd like to save useful comments and posts for giggles and knowledge. This feature exists in reddit and Lemmy....
Mbin: A kbin fork that promises to never review PRs before merging them (kbin.social)
Somebody who was previously active on the kbin codeberg repo has left that to make a fork of kbin called mbin....
Request: Remove ability to 'boost' your own comments and threads (kbin.social)
The ability to 'boost' your own comments/threads has been used by a very small number of users in a way that seriously degrades conversation on the platform. These users constantly move their own contributions to the top of the conversation without regard to their value. If allowed to continue it will likely become standard for...
Can't see many posts on kbinmeta even though the posters are not in my block list (including posts by Ernest). (kbin.social)
Here's logged in vs private tab: https://i.imgur.com/8SlEMmJ.png...
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We need more / faster moderation (kbin.social)
Ive spent the last week in shock at the lack of moderation because magazines and federated stuff is only moderated by @ernest who I know is busy with development. But the magazines that are on kbin.social and were setup as "Template" magazines are getting trashed either with spam/porn or toxic comments that were reported long...
saving posts (teacup.social)
Sometimes I write a really good post/comment that I want to come back to I the future, such as copying and pasting....
Why doesn't blocking work? (kbin.social)
I had to block a few users yesterday. Today, I noticed about ten notifications from users I've blocked—they replied to me, continued to make up lies about my heritage, and I continued to see their comments in my notifications....
Is there a page to see a list of instances kbin.social has defederated from? (kbin.social)
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Does Kbin have a private message functionality?
I’m developing a fediverse application and am torn between using lemmy and kbin for the backend. Private messages are a very important feature that I want to include. Does Kbin support private messaging users the way lemmy does?
Magazine bans not federating with lemmy.world (and potentially others) (kbin.social)
I've just discovered that lemmy.world (and potentially other) users I've banned from my magazine are still able to comment, comments I can't see on kbin but that do show up on lemmy.world....
What do you think about upvoting/boosting your own post? (kbin.social)
For clarification, I am not talking about using multiple accounts. I am talking about using a single account, and giving your own post a single upvote....
kbin.social seems to keep asking if I want to download a file when opening the page? Is this an xss? bug? what is this (kbin.social)
the filename usually has 6-9 characters of random letters
Can't delete bad posts (kbin.social)
Sometimes when I upload a link it doesn't load properly, it happens no big deal, but then I can't delete these buggy posts and then I end up unintentionally spamming a bunch of duplicates as I try to post again...
Is there a way to report an individual user? (kbin.cafe)
There is a user who posted an irrelevant ad on a magazine I follow, so I clicked their profile to see if the rest of what they posted was spam too. It was. However, I didn’t find a report user option on their profile. Is there one anywhere? I know I can go through and report their individual posts, but I’d also like to flag...
are these periodic infuxes of bots (first porn, and now pharmaceuticals) a kbin-specific problem, or a wider fediverse issue? (kbin.social)
and is there anything we, kbin, or the wider fediverse can do to combat them?...
Migrating Kbin account to new instance (kbin.social)
I recently created an account on a new kbin instance. Is there an easy way to migrate my account to that new instance? I feel like this should be easy to find. As such I suspect that such doesn't exist yet, or I'm an idiot. Both are equally possible.
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How do I know which instances kbin is/is NOT Federated With? (artemis.camp)
Sorry if this has already been asked, but is there a way to know if kbin is or is not federated with another instance? I know there is a way to block domains by typing in https://your kbin instance/d/domain you want to block and blocking them from there, but is there a way to see a list of instances defederated by default?...
Big list of specialized instances (kbin.social)
Updated 2023-11-12...
"Antiwoke" magazin on kbin.social posting bullshit like "how to end Wokeness" and "Time to reject the extrem trans lobby harming our society" How to report ? he is the moderator of that magazin. (calckey.social)
@ernest how do I report a Magazin on kbin.social ? There is a usere called "ps" who is posting to his own "antiwoke" Magazin on kbin.social. Please remove this and dont give them a chance to etablish them self on kbin.social. When I report his stuff it will go to him because he is the moderator of the magazin? Seems like a...