startrekexplained

@startrekexplained@startrek.website

This profile is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.

Where do you fall politically?

I’m hoping this doesn’t start a fight, I’m just curious what the political orientation is of this community. I grew up in a liberal (in the American sense) family, and I identify now as a socialist, though a lot of the liberalism I grew up in has stuck with me, like interest in LGBTQ and women’s rights, environmentalism,...

startrekexplained,

You’re an anarchist and a nationalist? Interesting mix

startrekexplained,

Oh, cool :)

startrekexplained,

California originally, now living in Arizona :)

startrekexplained,

Seems kinda counterproductive if you’re an anarchist, which means no government and no rules.

startrekexplained,

So you’re one of those people who likes China and North Korea’s governments?

startrekexplained,

Ah okay, was just wondering what you meant by tankie. Usually don’t see ML’s identify as tankie.

startrekexplained,

Sorry for the huge wall of text.

It’s fine, I prefer detailed responses.

And I understand the difference between left wing and right wing nationalism, but it’s kind of weird to be for the identity of Wales and against all governments, given national identities heavily rely on governments to exist.

startrekexplained,

Australia has compulsory voting?

startrekexplained,

Well isnt Welsh a nationality as well?

startrekexplained,

Sounds horrible

startrekexplained,

I guess I should ask why do you think the state will dissolve?

startrekexplained,

So a tankie?

startrekexplained,

Tankies typically like the one party dictatorships of the ussr and china and cuba, etc

startrekexplained,

Is there an anarchist model you cite as an example?

startrekexplained,

Its not really a democracy if you have to vote

startrekexplained,

So you are one of those types against drag story hour?

Also you want a stagnant population and prefer that over immigration?

startrekexplained,

Capitalism also requires a state though

startrekexplained,

I’m interested what you mean by this? Fiscally for a command economy but socially against it?

startrekexplained,

So a direct democracy?

startrekexplained,

What do you mean by “voluntary government”? Basically a government where anyone can opt out? And by participation, do you mean direct democracy?

startrekexplained,

But immigration is an excellent solution to declining birth rates, why be against that?

startrekexplained,

Yeah that confused me, because a shrinking population is bad for the economy, no?

startrekexplained,

Why?

startrekexplained,

In a representative democracy, what’s the point in making everyone vote in it?

startrekexplained,

ZAD de Notres-Dame-des-Landes

I’m surprised you didn’t cite Catalonia or Zapatistas or Anarchist Ukraine? Guess you don’t like those?

startrekexplained,

Fair enough but we get to accomplish that here by just staying home.

startrekexplained,

Killing nazis, like the government executing people who identify as neo-nazis?

startrekexplained,

Drag queens just reading nice kids books to children is better than indoctrinating kids into Christianity, IMO

startrekexplained,

Well what do you think of those examples, since they’re large scale?

startrekexplained,

Tankies are the bane of my existence, so I agree

startrekexplained,

I never understood LGBTQ people who identify as Leninists or ML given these regimes heavily persecuted LGBTQ people and continue to persecute them to this day (China for example)

startrekexplained, (edited )

Just asking for clarification. I’m not for direct democracy because it seems like democracy just for the elite.

startrekexplained,

I’m aware of Cuba’s recent laws regarding LGBTQ rights. Cuba for decades sent homosexuals and trans people into internment camps because they were “deviants” and only recently has enacted LGBTQ rights because it’s been forced to open up to the rest of the world after the fall of the Soviet Union. Also it’s just one example, whereas the largest ML country, China, heavily represses anyone who is not heteronormative. So does North Korea. So did the Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc. It was in liberal democracies where LGBTQ people first gained rights and have the strongest rights.

startrekexplained,

It’s economic suicide but okay.

startrekexplained,

Agreed with that

startrekexplained,

Fair enough on the Zapatistias, I just hear about them a lot from anarchists as a workable example of anarchosocialism.

And yeah I actually don’t know a lot about anarchist Catalonia, just that it’s basically the biggest example of anarchism on a society-wide level. Was actually goading you for more information lol.

Mahknovists

Yes, them. Also don’t know much about them. I know far more about the Menshevik territories in Georgia and Russia, which were democratic socialist and not anarchist, and even more forgotten about.

startrekexplained,

I don’t think you can have a direct say in everything in society, trying to make such a society sounds like a nightmare IMO.

startrekexplained, (edited )

They’re not in communist countries. And Florida is led by illiberal increasingly anti-democratic figures that are directly inspired by Russia and even China, so what a terrible example to counteract my point, lol

startrekexplained,

Yeah it’s not like the countries with the highest acceptance and rights of lgbtq people are liberal democracies, lol

startrekexplained, (edited )

economist.com/…/why-the-communist-party-fears-gay…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history_in_Russia#Sovi…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Cuba#Homopho…

So no, reality doesn’t conform to what you’re saying.

DDR was fairly progressive in the 1980s

It was less progressive than West Germany/West Berlin, and only began tolerating LGBTQ people (not granting them equal rights) after opening up more to the West near the end of its existence.

en.wikipedia.org/…/LGBT_rights_in_the_German_Demo…

startrekexplained,

Thanks a lot :) I’ve been meaning to read up on anarchosocialism for quite awhile.

startrekexplained,

How do you feel on the Nepalese Maoists?

startrekexplained,

Fair enough, was specifically wondering what your views were on People’s Multiparty Democracy that Nepalese Maoists subscribe to?

startrekexplained,

As a trans person, the outcome that would directly benefit me the most from political action would be the immediate abolition of private property

No it wouldn’t, given they didn’t have rights in the Soviet Union, which abolished private property.

I don’t really buy into tankies complaining about “the war machine” when they back Russian and Chinese imperialism. Something tells me you don’t care about trans rights when Russia directly claims to be fighting LGBTQ people in Ukraine.

startrekexplained,

What good are rights when you’re poor and hungry with no fucking housing?

I mean you’re not poor and hungry if you have time to argue with me on Lemmy on a Star Trek space, unless you just have really bad priorities? Also you dodged the point about private property abolition not doing anything for trans rights…

startrekexplained,

The GOP is directly inspired by the homophobic attitudes in both countries. Have you been living under a rock?

startrekexplained,

Sorta is now, lol

startrekexplained,

Yeah you dodged it because you have no response.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • random
  • meta
  • Macbeth
  • All magazines