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lurch, in Is mstdn.social down for everyone?

Seems down.

btw there is this site that will try to check it from their IP: https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mstdn.social?proto=https

morgunkorn, in Is mstdn.social down for everyone?
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FaizalR,
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Thanks. It seems to take longer than planned.

Lemmeenym, in Is mstdn.social down for everyone?

Just followed your link. I got an elephant that said something went wrong on their end.

southsamurai, in The Biden Lies the Liberal Media Want You to Forget
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The fuck are you smoking? This is in the wrong community, and I think you know that

fartington, in The Biden Lies the Liberal Media Want You to Forget

Bill D’Agostino is the Media Editor for NewsBusters and Senior Research Analyst for the Media Research Center’s News Analysis division. His work has been featured on Fox News, The Daily Wire, The Mark Levin Show, and many other conservative outlets.

HubertManne,
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thanks

sxan,
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Block the poster, or the whole magazine?

lowdownfool, in Kbin /m/fediverse is over 90% spam
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I left several months ago due to the spam. Got that old Reddit itch so came back. Looks bleak.

Max_P, in Kbin /m/fediverse is over 90% spam
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The guy that manages Kbin has been having personal issues and stepped away from the fediverse so yeah Kbin is kind of in limbo at the moment and indeed not well moderated. There’s mods but there’s just so much they can do. The software doesn’t federate the deletions so even if they’re gone on Kbin, they remain everywhere else.

palordrolap,

One of the main problems is that Ernest is the owner and only mod on those magazines getting all the spam. I guess I missed the memo (figuratively speaking) about deletions not being federated though. That seems like a problem even if there were alternative moderators.

There's at least one person on the mod-request queue for most of the spam-ridden magazines. That "at least one" is me, which is how I know. I'm not here all the time and wouldn't be great at it, but at this stage even a part-time mod would be better than none at all. Hopefully, as and when Ernest comes back he can assign some roles. Twice as hopefully, someone else who would be better at it gets it instead.

Indy, in Kbin /m/fediverse is over 90% spam

Agreed. My block list is unbelievable. As I've said in previous comments about this kind of thing: communication is key.
We're getting zero communication and, if we so wanted to leave, can't even delete our own accounts on the way out.

Raffster,

Tried to delete my account here as well. No such luck.

Indy,

Indeed. I've heard that from others as well.
I, personally, do not intend to delete my account (yet), but I am aware that it is a manual process. As so much is here, it seems.

I recently made some adjustments to my stuff here and it's helped a little. (You'll see the irony momentarily.)
I've unsubscribed from most kbin magazines and have subscribed to magazines (communities) from other Fediverse instances instead. Now my feed actually has content and a lack of SPAM. So, essentially, I'm here in name only.

Eventually, all of us normal users will need to ditch this platform because we won't our names/accounts tied to something that is notorious for SPAM and other illegal activities. Perhaps sooner than later, if the rest of the Fediverse decides to stop federating with kbin.
Until then, I figure at least I can still look through the window at the rest of the Fediverse.

OpenStars, in So long and thanks for the nice time.
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Relevant comment from a few days ago: lemmy.max-p.me/comment/2612621

intelisense,

That’s a shame - kbin had some cool ideas.

OpenStars,
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I hope it goes on. And being open source, it definitely will! (e.g. Mbin)

Ernest likewise will be remembered, fondly or otherwise, for his contributions in starting it.

That said, I’m close to personally blocking it due to all the spam hitting other servers from it, and the FBI may come knocking soon as well if people decide to hit it with illegal stuff like CP.

hitmyspot, in I think we should slightly rethink how login works on most Fediverse apps (Mastodon, Lemmy, but not only)

To do so, there would need to be a centralized or federated list of all accounts. If it was centralized it would be against federation principles. If it was federated, then anyone who sets up a server would potentially have access to all email addresses. Perhaps,more in the style of email, like @user but that would likely lead to more confusion as people would put their email and it is essentially the same information.

I do agree that log in as the opening page is not a great experience. Helping people to find an instance should be easier to filter. Rather than a list by popularity, let them know choosing by interest or location can help find relevant content and have easy to use clickable filters to do so.

ginerel,
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To do so, there would need to be a centralized or federated list of all accounts

Why would there be? The app would just search for the domain name first (let's say "aussie.zone") and then your username (in your case "hitmyspot"). That's kinda how email works as well. What centralized database would you need to interrogate a server on login? It's no different than the current implementation, only that you do not need to remember the website first, just enter the whole username in one go.

hitmyspot,

The domain for my email is gmail.com not Aussie zone. I also cannot log in to gmail on the hotmail (outlook? )site. Perhaps you are interpreting their request to not use username and site name and instead use email, to instead use a long form Lemmy username?

That could work, but I don’t know that it adds any extra layer of simplicity, but maybe that’s what they meant. My interpretation is that they are saying to link your account to your email address, as that’s what most other services do. Without knowing which instance you register with, there would need to be a registry. Perhaps this could be hashed in some way, but it would still be effectively public facing as any instance would need access.

ginerel,
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Perhaps you are interpreting their request to not use username and site name and instead use email, to instead use a long form Lemmy username?

No, I was saying to use their Fediverse username and their Fediverse password. Sorry if I got misunderstood. Nothing to do with the actual email address used at signup.

eveninghere, in I think we should slightly rethink how login works on most Fediverse apps (Mastodon, Lemmy, but not only)

No, because security. Look up how oauth works and why.

ginerel,
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Email providers also have oauth

Die4Ever, in I think we should slightly rethink how login works on most Fediverse apps (Mastodon, Lemmy, but not only)

tl;dr: apps should login with the username die4ever@programming.dev similar to email, instead of choosing instance programming.dev and then typing in die4ever for username separately

yea that probably would be simpler, I’m sure some apps already do this

Max_P, in Yeah um...what future...
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Kbin is not currently maintained due to the guy that makes it having personal issues and not having time to keep up with it. Some instances are even defederating kbin due to spam not being cleaned up and also some bugs sending the same activities over and over again.

No spam on my end on Lemmy.

rasterweb,
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I ended up moving from kbin.social to fedia.io which runs mbin and has a team, not just one person. (kbin.social kept breaking all the time for me.)

snownyte,
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That's sounding like a feasible option. I've thrown myself back into Lemmy itself because I can't take the constant breaking of Kbin and seeing so much potential just trashed about in instances like this.

CaptObvious, in President Biden is now posting into the fediverse

Threads isn’t exactly the fediverse.

btaf45,

They don't have the entire Mastodon functionality yet but it is awesome we can follow Biden on Mastodon.

CaptObvious,

They’ll never have the full Mastodon functionality because they’re Facebook. It’s always going to be a one way proposition where Masto can see them but they can’t see us. It’s honestly kind of like being a creepy Peeping Tom.

Assuming, of course, that your instance doesn’t block Threads. Many (most?) do. Some even block second-degree connections.

btaf45,

They’ll never have the full Mastodon functionality

Until they do, my only interaction with Threads will be to follow Biden on kbin.

btaf45, in President Biden is now posting into the fediverse

Can anyone tell me how I can follow President Biden from kbin.social?

Communist,
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I’d bet kbin is defederated, almost everything is defederated from threads

Maeve,

I hope you're right, but I would love to know someone posted this to Geno Joe.

btaf45,

If that's the case I will go to Mastodon. But I would love to follow Biden on kbin.

Nia_The_Cat,

kbin.social/u/@potus you can follow him via this link (anyone else on other kbin instances, just adjust the link to your instance, assuming you aren’t defederated or if it isn’t bugging out atm on your server it should work)

Remember that federation is currently one way with threads. You and other fediverse users can see your own replies and boosts etc on their posts and interact with each other, but no one from threads can see your interactions or replies to them.

HeartyBeast,
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If you search for @potus he comes up and you can select Follow. Content should then show in the ‘Microblog’ stream. Might take a while to start flowing, though

btaf45,

Thanks! It works.

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